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Subject: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
From: Your Name
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Subject: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
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Apple has announced new equipment:

- iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
- iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
- Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
- Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro

Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>

Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
<https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>

Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
From: Chris
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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 06:23 UTC
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From: ithinkiam@gmail.com (Chris)
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Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
> Apple has announced new equipment:
>
> - iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
> - iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
> - Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
> - Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro
>
> Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>
>
> Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
> <https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>

Also 10th gen ipad is the new entry level at a new, lower price
(£349/$349). The gap between it and the next model up, the ipad air, is
pretty big at £250/$250.

Is it just me, but I find the ipads expensive? As soon as you add a pencil
or keyboard you're getting close to macbook prices.

Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
From: Hank Rogers
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 06:54 UTC
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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>> Apple has announced new equipment:
>>
>> - iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
>> - iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
>> - Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
>> - Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro
>>
>> Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>
>>
>> Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
>> <https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>
>
> Also 10th gen ipad is the new entry level at a new, lower price
> (£349/$349). The gap between it and the next model up, the ipad air, is
> pretty big at £250/$250.
>
> Is it just me, but I find the ipads expensive? As soon as you add a pencil
> or keyboard you're getting close to macbook prices.
>
>

They’re overpriced, but most apple products are.

Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
From: Your Name
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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 07:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
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On 2024-05-08 06:54:30 +0000, Hank Rogers said:

> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple has announced new equipment:
>>>
>>> - iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
>>> - iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
>>> - Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
>>> - Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro
>>>
>>> Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>
>>>
>>> Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
>>> <https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>
>>
>> Also 10th gen ipad is the new entry level at a new, lower price
>> (£349/$349). The gap between it and the next model up, the ipad air, is
>> pretty big at £250/$250.
>>
>> Is it just me, but I find the ipads expensive? As soon as you add a pencil
>> or keyboard you're getting close to macbook prices.
>
> They’re overpriced, but most apple products are.

No they aren't.

Compare them properly, spec-for-spec (or as close as you can get), and
you'll find the higher end devices by Samsung, etc. are all similarly
priced. Most people who trot out the incorrect "Apple is over-priced"
nonsense are blinkered due to Samsung, etc. also making low end devices
at cheaper prices, while Apple doesn't.

The reality is, you get what you pay for - those low end devices are
usually cheaper because they cut corners, use older tech, have less
storage or RAM, etc.

Yes, buying an iPad (espeically one with an M-series CPU), adding a
keyboard and input device bascially does give you a MacBook, so of
course the price is simlar. The only real difference between the two at
that point is the OS they run and some of the apps they can / can't run.

If the prices were extremely different, then the same people would then
be complaining about why the prices are different for basically the
same device. :-\

Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
From: Jolly Roger
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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 15:22 UTC
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On 2024-05-08, Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple has announced new equipment:
>>>
>>> - iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
>>> - iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
>>> - Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
>>> - Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro
>>>
>>> Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>
>>>
>>> Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
>>> <https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>
>>
>> Also 10th gen ipad is the new entry level at a new, lower price
>> (£349/$349). The gap between it and the next model up, the ipad air, is
>> pretty big at £250/$250.
>>
>> Is it just me, but I find the ipads expensive? As soon as you add a pencil
>> or keyboard you're getting close to macbook prices.
>
> They’re overpriced, but most apple products are.

The market shows otherwise.

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Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
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On 2024-05-07 22:52:44 +0000, Your Name said:

> Apple has announced new equipment:
>
> - iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
> - iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
> - Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
> - Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro
>
> Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>
>
> Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
> <https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>

The new iPad Pro is even thinner, so expect a raft of complaints and US
lawsuits because they get bent by people doing stupid things like
sitting on them. :-\

Subject: Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil
From: Chris
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Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 07:55 UTC
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Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple has announced new equipment:
>>>
>>> - iPad Pro with M4 chip, OLED Display
>>> - iPad Air with M2 chip, in 11in and 13in sizes
>>> - Pencil Pro with squeeze gesture and haptic feedback
>>> - Redesigned Magic Keyboard for new iPad Pro
>>>
>>> Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event
>>> <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/07/everything-announced-may-7-event/>
>>>
>>> Everything Announced in 8 Minutes!
>>> <https://youtu.be/qc7eFY82gQw>
>>
>> Also 10th gen ipad is the new entry level at a new, lower price
>> (£349/$349). The gap between it and the next model up, the ipad air, is
>> pretty big at £250/$250.
>>
>> Is it just me, but I find the ipads expensive? As soon as you add a pencil
>> or keyboard you're getting close to macbook prices.
>>
>>
>
> They’re overpriced, but most apple products are.

Ordinarily I disagree. Just because Apple doesn't do cheap kit doesn't mean
it's overpriced.

However, iPads are approaching "how much?!" prices. Like I said the jump
from entry-level to the next one is big. The cynic in me thinks that the
ipad is only there so that Apple can say "prices starting at £349" rather
than "prices starting at £599". Those are very different segments of the
market.

Apart from creatives who need to work with a pen/pencil, I'd love to know
the use cases for an ipad pro (starting at £1299) over, say, a MBA (£999).

Subject	Author
[NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Your Name
Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Chris
Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Hank Rogers
Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Your Name
Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Jolly Roger
Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Chris
Re: [NEWS] New iPad Pro, iPad Air, Pencil	Your Name