-hh wrote on Sat, 23 Nov 2024 08:52:13 -0500 :

>> What are the steps an ordinary consumer would have to take to avoid
>> setting up Windows 11 without a Microsoft account?
>
> Yup, still waiting.

It's not surprising the Apple trolls know nothing about anything, but even
so, since -hh hasn't acted like the rest of the ignorant trolls, note that
this has been discussed & tested for a long time on the Windows 11 ng.
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=alt.comp.os.windows-10>

What's funny about that is the Apple trolls only look at Apple marketing
brochures to find all their information they think they know about stuff.

>>> For Android, there is also no requirement whatsoever for an account.
>>>
>>> Google has always allowed you to obtain software from the Google Play
>>> Store WITHOUT setting up an account, and of course, anywhere else too.
>>
>> Cite please!
>
> Which needs to be reconcile against this, which says that you do:
>
> " A range of Google applications and services is available on your
> device when you purchase it, for example, Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube,
> and the Google Play application. To get the most out of these services,
> you need a Google account."
> <https://helpguide.sony.net/mobile/xperia-5/v1/en/contents/why-do-i-need-a-google-account.html>

Again (and again) it's no longer shocking the Apple trolls know absolutely
nothing of everything they think they know anything about such as this.

Who is that stupid as to think you need a Google account on Android?
I haven't had a Google account on Android for years and mine works fine.

All you Apple trolls live on Mount Stupid (in Dunning Kruger inexact
terms). You're so stupid you don't even realize how stupid you are.

Bear in mind I'm not stupid.
You're stupid.
I'm not.

Actually, you're incredibly stupid.

The fact is setting up a Google account on Android is NOT needed to have
full functionality (such as downloading & installing apps from the App
Store). I do it all the time and I've been doing it for many years.

Note that adding a Microsoft account isn't needed on Windows either.

It's only Apple who murders your privacy.

> Plus of course the tracking integral to Google Chrome (see current
> lawsuit) where it effectively doxxes its users without them consenting.

I don't have Google Chrome on my Android phone and it works just fine.
I have *plenty* of web browsers - but none of them are Google Chrome.

What's no longer shocking is you Apple trolls know nothing about anything.
And yet... you make these absurd claims... which everyone knows are wrong.

Seriously.

I've never met people this stupid in the flesh in my entire life.

Tom Elam wrote on Mon, 25 Nov 2024 08:59:56 -0500 :

>> No other common OS system vendor requires you to give up your privacy
>> just to get apps off the app store so that the device can do stuff.
>>
>> Just Apple.
>>
>> That's a fact.
>
> That is not true. Google Services also requires a valid mobile number
> for 2FA.

Wrong.

I have plenty of Google accounts and not one of them requires 2FA.
Apple is the only OS vendor who murders privacy with 2FA being required.

Notice there's a reason I say that the Apple trolls know nothing about
anything since you don't know this fact - but you "think" you know it.

Google only required 2FA for about a month or two a couple of years ago and
then stopped that requirement because of the uproar by people who hated it.
*There are now 3rd-party MUAs to recover from Google May 30th 2022 unilateral loss of privacy*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/prNMni71S3k/m/Y3yrV5EFBQAJ>

By August of 2022, Google stopped requiring 2FA/2FV/MFV for their accounts.
That's a fact.

What's interesting is the Apple trolls are all on Mount Stupid where they
think they know facts - but in reality - they know nothing about anything.

Your Name wrote on Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:50:47 +1300 :

>>> I think it's funny when the Apple trolls assume I hate Apple or that I
>>> don't own plenty of Apple products since they assume anyone who knows
>>> what's s anything about Apple must not own any Apple products. They're strange.
>>
>> What's strange is you hate Apple and keep buying their products!
>
> Even if he wasn't already a well-known moronic troll, anyone who thinks
> $250 is a "stocking stuffer" is obviously an insane idiot anyway.

It's well known on this newsgroup for years that I've given out electronics
as stocking stuffers, and that I own plenty of Apple products myself.

That's why I find it intriguing that you Apple trolls constantly claim that
I know so much about Apple products because you think I don't own them.

Only Apple trolls are *that* stupid.

But I understand why you Apple trolls say that.

It's because it's you Apple trolls who hate what Apple is - not me.

So to make the truth about Apple go away, you low IQ uneducated Apple
trolls come up with the first childish excuse you can think of.

Which is that you state I can't possibly own Apple products simply because
I know so much more about them than any of you Apple trolls who own them.

But the fact simply is you Apple trolls know nothing about anything.

Tom Elam wrote on Fri, 29 Nov 2024 17:46:06 -0500 :

> Andrew, just today, Google required me to respond to a text sent to my
> iPhone to 2FA validate a Google account request.

Google does *not* require 2FA. It only required it for about 2 months a
couple of years ago, and after the brouhaha, Google rescinded that decree.

Yet, you Apple trolls live in a fantasy world where 2FA is required.
Who is *that* stupid?

Nobody, right?
Except you Apple trolls.

As I've stated many times - and which you just proved - you Apple trolls
know nothing about anything - least of all about Apple or Google OS's.

The fact is well known that Google does NOT require any account on Android
for Android to work - so there's no MFV/2FA/2FV when there is no account.

It's also well known even if you do have a Google Account (I have plenty,
for example), you *never* need to use 2FA to access that account.

Given those facts, what's always the case with you Apple trolls is
A: You "think" you know something about this topic;
B: And yet, you know nothing at all about it.

None of you Apple trolls knows anything about Google or Apple systems.