badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:09:39 -0000 (UTC) :

>>If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
>>because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.
>
> Speaking of Goldwings, when I first got mine I noticed on various
> websites the spelling alternated between Goldwing, Gold Wing, and
> GL1800. Of course GL1800 is the official model of the motorcycle, and
> mine is a 2002 GL1800A which denotes one with ABS.
>
> I asked the guy who sold it to me whether it was a Goldwing or Gold
> Wing and he told me Goldwing. He referred me to the manual and the
> trim pieces on the bike which say Goldwing. I have seen the Honda
> website which says Gold Wing, but frankly I think that was designed or
> edited by someone who doesn't know the history of the motorcycle. I
> don't really know, other than what the LCD display, manual and placard
> on my bike say -- Goldwing.

Hi badgolferman,

You just made my point perfectly for me, in that I don't know a damn thing
about Honda bikes - so I don't even know myself if it's a Gold Wing or not.

I see Honda advertises at their bike site it as a "Gold Wing"...
<https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>

But your point is well taken that I don't know a damn thing about
GoldWings/Goldwings, and you can tell because I don't know the terms.

Yet....

I do know the difference between "riding" a bike and "driving" it.
As do you.

Anyone using the term "driving" a bike is a noob so if they then claim to
know everything about it (as the Apple trolls do for so many things), then
they're just posers.

Which is my point.

These Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know anything - about anything.

badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:25:11 -0000 (UTC) :

> If only they had built
> in an access panel for the air filter...

Same with the CCV on my 525i which is merely a PCV but with a far more
complex design such that BMW decided to call it, instead, a CCV.

It's horribly complicated.

And as a result, it *always* eats itself up in just a few years.

So *everyone* with that bimmer model has to replace it.

Like your Gold%20Wing/Gold-Wing/Goldwing/etc. air filter joke, it's as if
BMW started with a CCV and then built the entire engine around that one
emissions component.

It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't fail emissions - but it often does.

So everyone who knows anything about that bimmer model is well acquainted
with the CCV (among other horridly designed engine components).

If they claim to be knowledgeable in that model, and if they don't know
about the CCV, then it's clear that they're just posers playing games.

Like Alan Baker who never knew what a catenary was until I explained it to
him in terms of sweeping around curves at constant speeds.

Alan Baker was so stupid, even after he looked it up - he thought it was
about bridges - which proves yet again my point these Apple trolls are
incredibly uneducated, and hence ignorant of everything - especially Apple
products.

Even when told a catenary had to do with taking curves at speed, these
Apple trolls insisted a catenary has only to do with suspension bridges.

That's how stupid these Apple trolls truly are.

They read Wikipedia, which I'm sure mentions suspension bridges, and they
don't have the education to flip the terms 90 degrees to sweeping out
curves at constant speed.

They're morons.

Which is my point.

My main point is that all these Apple trolls are posers.

All the Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know *anything* about the Apple products they love.
In fact, it's patently obvious they don't know anything about anything.

On 11/9/2024 1:38 PM, Andrews wrote:
> sticks wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 12:15:11 -0600 :
>
>> Wanna see my trophy?
>
> Notice how the Apple trolls act like kindergarten kids when faced with
> backing up their absurd point of view when defending Apple to the death.

Is that a no you don't want to see my trophy, or do you simply not
believe I have one?

BTW, I don't think I've said much about apple one way or the other.
Only things about you, and what a trolling idiot you are.

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On 2024-11-09 11:56, Andrews wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:25:11 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> If only they had built
>> in an access panel for the air filter...
>
> Same with the CCV on my 525i which is merely a PCV but with a far more
> complex design such that BMW decided to call it, instead, a CCV.
>
> It's horribly complicated.
>
> And as a result, it *always* eats itself up in just a few years.
>
> So *everyone* with that bimmer model has to replace it.
>
> Like your Gold%20Wing/Gold-Wing/Goldwing/etc. air filter joke, it's as if
> BMW started with a CCV and then built the entire engine around that one
> emissions component.
>
> It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't fail emissions - but it often does.
>
> So everyone who knows anything about that bimmer model is well acquainted
> with the CCV (among other horridly designed engine components).
>
> If they claim to be knowledgeable in that model, and if they don't know
> about the CCV, then it's clear that they're just posers playing games.
>
> Like Alan Baker who never knew what a catenary was until I explained it to
> him in terms of sweeping around curves at constant speeds.

Except you don't "sweep around curves at constant speeds" when you're
road racing, Arlen.

>
> Alan Baker was so stupid, even after he looked it up - he thought it was
> about bridges - which proves yet again my point these Apple trolls are
> incredibly uneducated, and hence ignorant of everything - especially Apple
> products.

Nope. That's simply false.

>
> Even when told a catenary had to do with taking curves at speed, these
> Apple trolls insisted a catenary has only to do with suspension bridges.

False again.

>
> That's how stupid these Apple trolls truly are.
>
> They read Wikipedia, which I'm sure mentions suspension bridges, and they
> don't have the education to flip the terms 90 degrees to sweeping out
> curves at constant speed.

You don't take curves at constant speeds when racing, doofus.

On 2024-11-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-11-08 12:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-11-08, RoadRacer <racer@nunya.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, and here's my current road car:
>>>
>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RksO8IIHEzap0YkYbkLNReU2zKc5WhLw/view?usp=share_link>
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> Is that a 1-series or a 3? What year/model?
>
> 2012 135i M Sport.
>
>> My 335i is the same color. It's been a great car (fuel pump issues got
>> worked out under warranty). 🙂👍
> My car had an electric water pump failure under warranty...
>
> ...and a failure of the o-rings on the oil filter housing...
>
> ...leading to oil leaking down onto the alternator...
>
> ...leading to a replacement of the alternator...
>
> ...and that wasn't under warranty.
>
> Moral of the story:
>
> If your 335i is using the same engine design, be very aware of you start
> to smell any oil burning.
>
> 😖

Mine's a 2008. Just replaced the alternator last year.

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On 2024-11-09 15:05, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-11-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-08 12:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-08, RoadRacer <racer@nunya.biz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and here's my current road car:
>>>>
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RksO8IIHEzap0YkYbkLNReU2zKc5WhLw/view?usp=share_link>
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Is that a 1-series or a 3? What year/model?
>>
>> 2012 135i M Sport.
>>
>>> My 335i is the same color. It's been a great car (fuel pump issues got
>>> worked out under warranty). 🙂👍
>> My car had an electric water pump failure under warranty...
>>
>> ...and a failure of the o-rings on the oil filter housing...
>>
>> ...leading to oil leaking down onto the alternator...
>>
>> ...leading to a replacement of the alternator...
>>
>> ...and that wasn't under warranty.
>>
>> Moral of the story:
>>
>> If your 335i is using the same engine design, be very aware of you start
>> to smell any oil burning.
>>
>> 😖
>
> Mine's a 2008. Just replaced the alternator last year.
>

Does it have the oil filter on the top of the engine, too?

sticks wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:29:44 -0600 :

> I don't think I've said much about apple one way or the other.

Exactly my point that you Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products.

On 11/9/2024 8:26 PM, Andrews wrote:
> sticks wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:29:44 -0600 :
>
>> I don't think I've said much about apple one way or the other.
>
> Exactly my point that you Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products.

Heh, I guess I'm about done with reading any more of your nonsense. All
you're interested in is causing chaos. Time to put the filters back to
work. Anything you post, and all subthreads will be blocked. That
should make the group usable again.

Good Bye, and hopefully more people will follow.

--
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sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> On 11/9/2024 8:26 PM, Andrews wrote:
>> sticks wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:29:44 -0600 :
>>
>>> I don't think I've said much about apple one way or the other.
>>
>> Exactly my point that you Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products.
>
> Heh, I guess I'm about done with reading any more of your nonsense. All
> you're interested in is causing chaos. Time to put the filters back to
> work. Anything you post, and all subthreads will be blocked. That
> should make the group usable again.
>
> Good Bye, and hopefully more people will follow.
>
I guess if you do a close reading you can see how ridiculous the Arlen
troll is. We know enough about Apple products to be able to turn them on
and off, update them, use the keyboard thingy, connect to a network, use a
charger, install a newsreader and configure a server and post this reply,
etc. So what further scrutiny of a ridiculously stupid assertion like
Arlen’s “you Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products” yield besides
that he has no idea what he is talking about.

*Hemidactylus* wrote:

>I guess if you do a close reading you can see how

....what a shit storm you started with this thread.

--
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Bonaparte

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> I guess if you do a close reading you can see how
>
>
> ...what a shit storm you started with this thread.
>
By my count roughly 1/3 of the posts on this thread are from your buddy
Arlen. Complain to him.

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>
>>> I guess if you do a close reading you can see how
>>
>>
>> ...what a shit storm you started with this thread.
>>
> By my count roughly 1/3 of the posts on this thread are from your buddy
> Arlen. Complain to him.
>
>
Actually that was over the past week. Over the course of the thread he
contributed 47/209ish posts or 22.5%.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:32:32 +0000, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

> Actually that was over the past week. Over the course of the thread he
> contributed 47/209ish posts or 22.5%.

So roughly ~75% of the posts in this thread were from the Apple trolls?

On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> Andrews wrote:
>
>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>> vehicles.
>
> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
> not like that's a long acronym.

Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.

FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:

Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.

> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".

Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.

-hh

On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:

> On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>> Andrews wrote:
>>
>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>> vehicles.
>>
>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
>> not like that's a long acronym.
>
> Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
>
> FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
> invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
>
> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.

Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".

>> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
>> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
>> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
>
> Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.

It's likely mostly Americans who can't pronounce it properly. They have
enough trouble with proper English, let alone any other language. :-p

On 2024-11-11 13:12, Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:
>
>> On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>>> vehicles.
>>>
>>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>>> maybe you can explain it to me.  Why don't people just say BMW?  It's
>>> not like that's a long acronym.
>>
>> Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
>>
>> FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
>> invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
>>
>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>
> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".

And normal people don't decide that people can't own a BMW...

....based on whether or not they know the slang terminology.

:-)

>>> I may have mentioned this once.  My mother who is German made sure I
>>> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly.  She hated when people pronounced
>>> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
>>
>> Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.
>
> It's likely mostly Americans who can't pronounce it properly. They have
> enough trouble with proper English, let alone any other language.  :-p
"Hey I finished painting, but you don't have a "porch"...

....you've got a Ferrari".

:-)

On 2024-11-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-11-09 15:05, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-11-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-08 12:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-08, RoadRacer <racer@nunya.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and here's my current road car:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RksO8IIHEzap0YkYbkLNReU2zKc5WhLw/view?usp=share_link>
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Is that a 1-series or a 3? What year/model?
>>>
>>> 2012 135i M Sport.
>>>
>>>> My 335i is the same color. It's been a great car (fuel pump issues got
>>>> worked out under warranty). 🙂👍
>>> My car had an electric water pump failure under warranty...
>>>
>>> ...and a failure of the o-rings on the oil filter housing...
>>>
>>> ...leading to oil leaking down onto the alternator...
>>>
>>> ...leading to a replacement of the alternator...
>>>
>>> ...and that wasn't under warranty.
>>>
>>> Moral of the story:
>>>
>>> If your 335i is using the same engine design, be very aware of you start
>>> to smell any oil burning.
>>>
>>> 😖
>>
>> Mine's a 2008. Just replaced the alternator last year.
>
> Does it have the oil filter on the top of the engine, too?

Yep. It's up front at the top above the alternator. I'll keep an eye on
it. 😅

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On 2024-11-11, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-11-11 13:12, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:
>>> On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Andrews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a
>>>>> bimmer and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those
>>>>> two vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer"
>>>> so maybe you can explain it to me.  Why don't people just say BMW? 
>>>> It's not like that's a long acronym.
>>>
>>> Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
>>> invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
>>>
>>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>>
>> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
>
> And normal people don't decide that people can't own a BMW...
>
> ...based on whether or not they know the slang terminology.
>
>:-)

Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
dislikes..

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Your Name wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:12:52 +1300 :

>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>
> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".

Just like nobody who owns a motorcycle "drives" it, anyone calling their
car a "beamer" is instantly recognizable as a poser who knows nothing.

Which was my point that Alan G. Baker claimed to own a bimmer and to teach
racing and yet he doesn't know the very first thing about either topic.

All you Apple trolls are posers (Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne,
Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, et al.) who know nothing about anything.

Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:29:27 GMT :

>>> Mine's a 2008. Just replaced the alternator last year.
>>
>> Does it have the oil filter on the top of the engine, too?
>
> Yep. It's up front at the top above the alternator. I'll keep an eye on
> it.

My 525i had the Mann/Hengst/Mahle oil filter on top also, where in the
beginning we suctioned the oil out the top but it's better to drain it.

I did an entire tutorial buying all the oil filters possible and showed
which were good and which were crap for the bimmers that I discussed.

But when I got rid of the bimmer, I stopped posting tutorial after tutorial
after tutorial for how to fix it - including the alternator, serpentine
belt, tensioners and cooling system R&R tutorials (best on the net).

Now I only have the beemer... K1200 (two wheels, not four!)
<https://www.bmwgrandblanc.com/blogs/4100/why-is-bmw-called-beamer >

It's no longer shocking though that you Apple trolls know nothing about
bimmers or beemers - since Apple trolls don't know anything about anything.

Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :

> Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
> people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
> dislikes..

The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls
don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.

Both are the most basic terms *anyone* would know who knows anything.
But not you Apple trolls.

You know nothing.

Apple trolls are squarely on top of Mount Stupid on everything, JR.

None of you Apple trolls understands even the DK seminal papers, but in
their terminology, you're all to the left of the first DK quadrile.

"The Dunning-Kruger effect is strongest when we're in the
first stage, unconscious incompetence. If we don't know what
we don't know, the Dunning-Kruger effect says, then we're
actually more likely to feel confident than others at higher
stages of competence."

You Apple trolls don't know the first thing about anything.

Not cars. Not curves. Not immunology. Not even headers for God's sake
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>

Who on earth is _that_ stupid? Nobody.

Except you Apple trolls.

All the Apple trolls (Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, et. al) know nothing about anything.

On 2024-11-11 18:46, Andrews wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :
>
>> Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
>> people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
>> dislikes..
> The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls
> don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.

And my point is that you know nothing about racing, because not a SINGLE
experienced racing driver I've ever known has ever mentioned the
catenary curve as being in any way related to the fastest line through a
corner.

On 2024-11-11 18:27, Andrews wrote:
> Your Name wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:12:52 +1300 :
>
>>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>>
>> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
>
> Just like nobody who owns a motorcycle "drives" it, anyone calling their
> car a "beamer" is instantly recognizable as a poser who knows nothing.
>
> Which was my point that Alan G. Baker claimed to own a bimmer and to teach
> racing and yet he doesn't know the very first thing about either topic.
I only "claim" it, because:

I do--in fact--own a 2012 BMW 135i,

and I do--in fact--teach road racing as well as race a 1998 Van Diemen
RF98-2 Formula F Honda.

:-)

On 2024-11-11 17:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-11-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-09 15:05, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-08 12:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-08, RoadRacer <racer@nunya.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and here's my current road car:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RksO8IIHEzap0YkYbkLNReU2zKc5WhLw/view?usp=share_link>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that a 1-series or a 3? What year/model?
>>>>
>>>> 2012 135i M Sport.
>>>>
>>>>> My 335i is the same color. It's been a great car (fuel pump issues got
>>>>> worked out under warranty). 🙂👍
>>>> My car had an electric water pump failure under warranty...
>>>>
>>>> ...and a failure of the o-rings on the oil filter housing...
>>>>
>>>> ...leading to oil leaking down onto the alternator...
>>>>
>>>> ...leading to a replacement of the alternator...
>>>>
>>>> ...and that wasn't under warranty.
>>>>
>>>> Moral of the story:
>>>>
>>>> If your 335i is using the same engine design, be very aware of you start
>>>> to smell any oil burning.
>>>>
>>>> 😖
>>>
>>> Mine's a 2008. Just replaced the alternator last year.
>>
>> Does it have the oil filter on the top of the engine, too?
>
> Yep. It's up front at the top above the alternator. I'll keep an eye on
> it. 😅
>

Good on ya!

On 11/11/24 10:01 PM, RoadRacer wrote:
> On 2024-11-11 18:46, Andrews wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :
>>
>>> Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
>>> people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
>>> dislikes..

Yup. I've seen similar 'gotcha' attempts by gun nutz over terminology too.

Of course they don't see outside of their little niche that those with
equally deep but broader experience means that one's trivial knowledge
includes different niche definitions of the same term. In such
situations, the solution is to ignore the niche pedantry attempts.

>> The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls
>> don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.
>
> And my point is that you know nothing about racing, because not a SINGLE
> experienced racing driver I've ever known has ever mentioned the
> catenary curve as being in any way related to the fastest line through a
> corner.

For motorsports, I've watched at least hundreds of races, and during all
those decades, I've never heard any NASCAR/Indy/F1/etc race announcers
ever mention the word "catenary" ...

.... let alone used it in the alleged context herein of guidance for
optimizing the line in a corner to minimize peak cornering forces.

But I'm sure that Arlen can provide multiple youtube clips of TV
broadcasts, with timestamps which show that I'm not misremembering.

-hh