I was looking for a cable and ran across my first tablet, a Nexus 7 2013. I
got some juice into it and powered it up. Boy, is it SLOW! Not just in
relation to my current tablet, but just really slow period. Does old
hardware like this slow down as it ages?

On 2024-05-22 01:48, MajorLanGod wrote:
> I was looking for a cable and ran across my first tablet, a Nexus 7 2013. I
> got some juice into it and powered it up. Boy, is it SLOW! Not just in
> relation to my current tablet, but just really slow period. Does old
> hardware like this slow down as it ages?

No.

Machines get slower as they age and get updated, because software gets
bigger with more features. Current software assumes current power
processors and memory, it runs slow on old hardware.

Another effect in a (android) machine that has not being used in a long
time, is that it gets busy with updates and "house chores", so it runs
slow for a while.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On Wed, 22 May 2024 03:13:05 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-05-22 01:48, MajorLanGod wrote:
> > I was looking for a cable and ran across my first tablet, a Nexus 7 2013. I
> > got some juice into it and powered it up. Boy, is it SLOW! Not just in
> > relation to my current tablet, but just really slow period. Does old
> > hardware like this slow down as it ages?
>
> No.
>
> Machines get slower as they age and get updated, because software gets
> bigger with more features. Current software assumes current power
> processors and memory, it runs slow on old hardware.
>
> Another effect in a (android) machine that has not being used in a long
> time, is that it gets busy with updates and "house chores", so it runs
> slow for a while.

Also I think it's psychological. Newer equipment is typically faster
than old equipment on the same tasks. When old equipment was all we
had, it seemed good enough. Then we got new equipment, and we (or at
least I) said "Dayum! This sucker _screams_!" But over time that
became our new idea of a standard speed. If we then try out the old
equipment, it seems very slow now even if its speed hasn't actually
changed, because it was standing still while newer came along and
raced ahead of it.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> I was looking for a cable and ran across my first tablet, a Nexus 7 2013. I
> got some juice into it and powered it up. Boy, is it SLOW! Not just in
> relation to my current tablet, but just really slow period. Does old
> hardware like this slow down as it ages?

My 2012 Nexus 7 still works. ISTR it got a lot slower when it was
updated from Android 4 to 5. But mine was long ago reflashed with
a 3rd-party version of Android - 7.1.2 from 2017 - and once it's
booted up, which takes ages, it runs pretty quickly.

I still use it for testing old apps. (It runs Firefox 68 which,
until recently, was the only version on Android which would run
Add-ons.)
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Remove numerics from my email address.

MajorLanGod wrote:

> my first tablet, a Nexus 7 2013. I got some juice into it and powered
> it up. Boy, is it SLOW!

I had a 2012 N7, at that time and that price it was a "must buy", it's
in landfill due to becoming glacially slow.

> Not just in relation to my current tablet, but just really slow
> period. Does old hardware like this slow down as it ages?

The eMMC storage was slow, even wiping and re-installing only helped for
a few days. Current devices with UFS storage are better.

On 22 May 2024 at 07:02:29, Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
> MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>
>> I was looking for a cable and ran across my first tablet, a Nexus 7 2013. I
>> got some juice into it and powered it up. Boy, is it SLOW! Not just in
>> relation to my current tablet, but just really slow period. Does old
>> hardware like this slow down as it ages?
>
> My 2012 Nexus 7 still works. ISTR it got a lot slower when it was
> updated from Android 4 to 5. But mine was long ago reflashed with
> a 3rd-party version of Android - 7.1.2 from 2017 - and once it's
> booted up, which takes ages, it runs pretty quickly.
>
Is that still available? My old N7 could use a shot in the arm.
>
> I still use it for testing old apps. (It runs Firefox 68 which,
> until recently, was the only version on Android which would run
> Add-ons.)

Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> Wrote in message:

> On 22 May 2024 at 07:02:29, Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
>> My 2012 Nexus 7 still works. ISTR it got a lot slower when it was
>> updated from Android 4 to 5. But mine was long ago reflashed with
>> a 3rd-party version of Android - 7.1.2 from 2017 - and once it's
>> booted up, which takes ages, it runs pretty quickly.
>>
> Is that still available? My old N7 could use a shot in the arm.

Take a look at the [ROM] threads here:
<https://xdaforums.com/c/nexus-7.1673/> or
<https://xdaforums.com/c/nexus-7-2013.2407/>

If you've not re-flashed a device before, be prepared to do a LOT
of reading to understand the process. It's easy to brick the
device if you get it wrong - so an old tablet like this one is
ideal to learn on.
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On 23 May 2024 at 06:45:14, Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
> Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> Wrote in message:
>
>> On 22 May 2024 at 07:02:29, Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
>>> My 2012 Nexus 7 still works. ISTR it got a lot slower when it was
>>> updated from Android 4 to 5. But mine was long ago reflashed with
>>> a 3rd-party version of Android - 7.1.2 from 2017 - and once it's
>>> booted up, which takes ages, it runs pretty quickly.
>>>
>> Is that still available? My old N7 could use a shot in the arm.
>
> Take a look at the [ROM] threads here:
> <https://xdaforums.com/c/nexus-7.1673/> or
> <https://xdaforums.com/c/nexus-7-2013.2407/>

Thanks, Dave!
>
> If you've not re-flashed a device before, be prepared to do a LOT
> of reading to understand the process. It's easy to brick the
> device if you get it wrong - so an old tablet like this one is
> ideal to learn on.

Used to flash CM almost weekly in early days of N7.
Likewise TWRP.
Android is a lot less fun these days!

Bob Martin wrote:

> Used to flash CM almost weekly in early days of N7.
> Likewise TWRP.

Same here for my N1 (still working) and N7 (long gone) it was necessary
to resize your own partitions, or move them from internal flash to SDcard.

> Android is a lot less fun these days!

OTOH, it largely just works, so the need to tinker has gone away, the
last device I used a 3rd party ROM on was either my N4 or N5x, can't
remember which.

It was a good way to learn about Android, back when .apk sizes were
measured in kB not hundreds of of MB.