On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 11:24:25 +0000, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
> I have just bought a Samsung phone, which came in a slim box - because
> no charger was included
>

Ditto my Google Pixel 8a, purchased at the end of November. the box
contained a USB-C cable, and a USB-A (female) to USB-C (male) dongle.
I have no use for the dongle.

A two-port Anker USB-C charger stays plugged into my UPS, next to a
two-port Anker USB-A charger for a couple of very old devices.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 11:24:25 +0000, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
> > I have just bought a Samsung phone, which came in a slim box - because
> > no charger was included
>
> Ditto my Google Pixel 8a, purchased at the end of November. the box
> contained a USB-C cable, and a USB-A (female) to USB-C (male) dongle.
> I have no use for the dongle.

The dongle is probably for being able to connect two phones together
(by means of the correct USB-something to USB-A cable) to transfer all
one's stuff from one's 'old' phone to one's 'new' phone.

Samsung has its Smart Switch app to do such transfers from most
Android phones to a Samsung phone, which can use the USB dongle+cable
(or Wi-Fi).

My advice is to keep the USB dongle, it may come in handy one day.

[...]

Frank Slootweg wrote:

> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> my Google Pixel 8a, purchased at the end of November. the box
>> contained a USB-C cable, and a USB-A (female) to USB-C (male) dongle.
>> I have no use for the dongle.
>
> The dongle is probably for being able to connect two phones together
> (by means of the correct USB-something to USB-A cable) to transfer all
> one's stuff from one's 'old' phone to one's 'new' phone.
I think the most recent phone I bought which used a cable to do the data
migration was Pixel3, can't remember what the pixel5a did, NFC bonk perhaps?

The pixel8a just needed a QR code scanning from one phone to the other
and leave them to it ...

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> > Stan Brown wrote:
> >>> my Google Pixel 8a, purchased at the end of November. the box
> >> contained a USB-C cable, and a USB-A (female) to USB-C (male) dongle.
> >> I have no use for the dongle.
> >
> > The dongle is probably for being able to connect two phones together
> > (by means of the correct USB-something to USB-A cable) to transfer all
> > one's stuff from one's 'old' phone to one's 'new' phone.
>
> I think the most recent phone I bought which used a cable to do the data
> migration was Pixel3, can't remember what the pixel5a did, NFC bonk perhaps?
>
> The pixel8a just needed a QR code scanning from one phone to the other
> and leave them to it ...

You aren't an Apple seed, who get their knickers in a twist at the
near mention of USB, are you!? :-)

As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like
Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the
hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi
(direct).

On 29 Dec 2024 19:25:41 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> My advice is to keep the USB dongle, it may come in handy one day.

Of course!

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA
https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

On 2024-12-30 11:17, Andrew wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 30 Dec 2024 12:32:48 GMT :
>
>>   As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like
>> Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the
>> hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi
>> (direct).
>
> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options.
>
> For example, I connect my Android phone over Wi-Fi as a Windows drive
> letter all the time - such that batch scripts work fine copying files.
>
> In addition, USB works even better (in that there is much less setup).
>
> Better yet, only Android has portable memory - which Apple has never had.
>
> With portable memory, if you're intelligent enough to realize that each
> sdcard has a volume label that you can set yourself when formatting, then
> you can format your volume label to XXXX-XXXX (or whatever) and if you do
> that, you can swap out sdcards any time you want and the phone won't even
> know you did that.
>
> An example I've recently done is I doubled the size of my sdcard.
>
> On Windows:
> a. I formatted the *new* sdcard to the same volume label as the old
> b. I copied all the old sdcard data to the new sdcard c. I swapped them out
>
> The phone didn't even realize I had done that, where all the data worked
> perfectly - and yet - I went from 64GB of external sdcard to 128 GB.
>
> By way of contrast, iOS is so brain dead, it can't do anything like that.
> Apple hates you.

Apple chose not to provide SDCard functionality.

It doesn't mean they "hate" anyone.

On 2024-12-30 11:39, Zaidy036 wrote:
> On 12/30/2024 2:24 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-12-30 11:17, Andrew wrote:
>>> Frank Slootweg wrote on 30 Dec 2024 12:32:48 GMT :
>>>
>>>>   As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like
>>>> Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the
>>>> hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi
>>>> (direct).
>>>
>>> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options.
>>>
>>> For example, I connect my Android phone over Wi-Fi as a Windows drive
>>> letter all the time - such that batch scripts work fine copying files.
>>>
>>> In addition, USB works even better (in that there is much less setup).
>>>
>>> Better yet, only Android has portable memory - which Apple has never
>>> had.
>>>
>>> With portable memory, if you're intelligent enough to realize that each
>>> sdcard has a volume label that you can set yourself when formatting,
>>> then
>>> you can format your volume label to XXXX-XXXX (or whatever) and if
>>> you do
>>> that, you can swap out sdcards any time you want and the phone won't
>>> even
>>> know you did that.
>>>
>>> An example I've recently done is I doubled the size of my sdcard.
>>>
>>> On Windows:
>>> a. I formatted the *new* sdcard to the same volume label as the old
>>> b. I copied all the old sdcard data to the new sdcard c. I swapped
>>> them out
>>>
>>> The phone didn't even realize I had done that, where all the data worked
>>> perfectly - and yet - I went from 64GB of external sdcard to 128 GB.
>>>
>>> By way of contrast, iOS is so brain dead, it can't do anything like
>>> that.
>>> Apple hates you.
>>
>> Apple chose not to provide SDCard functionality.
>>
>> It doesn't mean they "hate" anyone.
>
> DropBox and eMail are easy transfers also

Dropbox, Google Drive, iCloud Drive, OneDrive...

....the list is long.

Zaidy036 wrote on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:39:04 -0500 :

> DropBox and eMail are easy transfers also

In other words, the only solution for copying 128 GB (or so) of data from
any Apple device that is five inches away from any Windows PC is to use the
classic Apple clusterfuck method of purchasing an expensive cloud account
and then transferring 128GB (or so) of data from that dumb iOS device to
someone elses' (expensive) servers on the Internet and then copy that 128
GB (or so) back to the PC which was five inches away the entire time.

The fact that Apple clusterfuck is how you'd do it proves the maxim:
*Apple hates you*

Andrew wrote:

> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options.
I wasn't talking about general data transfer to/from android, but the
out-of-the-box "wizard" that transfers apps, data and settings from old
phone to new phone, which is a slick process.

Andy Burns wrote on Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:03:40 +0000 :

>> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options.
> I wasn't talking about general data transfer to/from android, but the
> out-of-the-box "wizard" that transfers apps, data and settings from old
> phone to new phone, which is a slick process.

I understand. Thanks for clarifying. I'm one of the best on earth for
migrating apps and data so I don't need all those marketing crutches.

However, I agree that "migration" from one phone to another is pretty well
handled nowadays (whether the owner is migrating an iOS or Android device).

All the highly marketed migration strategies simply involve "the cloud".
(IMHO)

Me?

I put nothing on "the cloud" so my migration is pre-planned years ahead.

For example, my app migration is planned years ahead of time.
1. All my apps APKs are automatically backed up at the time of install.
2. My highly-organized home screen is periodically backed up.
3. I can install all my apps in a few seconds by sliding them over.
4. They always go EXACTLY in the new phone where they were in the old.

As for my data migration, that's even easier:
1. I format my external sd card to a known volume name.
2. I tell all my apps (if possible) to store data on that external card.
3. I just pluck the card out of the old phone & pop it into the new phone.

My migration is nearly 100% successful with those two simple strategies.
None of this can be done with iOS as iOS is a brain dead dumb terminal.

But, if you're intelligent, it can all easily be done with Android.

But I'm probably one out of a million Android users who can do all that.
So are you.

But most people need the clusterfuck of needing to use the cloud for that.