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Subject: Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force
From: Alan
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 10:12:01 -0800
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On 2024-12-29 02:32, David Wade wrote:
> On 29/12/2024 11:05, Scott wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 19:43:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-12-28 19:32, Andrew wrote:
>>>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good
>>>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for
>>>> too long.
>>>>
>>>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force*
>>>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating-
>>>> universal-
>>>> chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force>
>>>>
>>>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were
>>>> "terrified" of
>>>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into
>>>> force.
>>>
>>> How does a universal charger change "interoperating" at all?
>>
>> I wondered that too. For a train, for example, 'interoperating'
>> suggests more than shared infrastructure. It means the couplings, the
>> software etc have to be compatible.
>
> For an iPad there is interaction. USB-C has voltage negotiation, but my
> wife's iPad charges correctly from my Lenovo laptop charger.
>
> On an iPhone the "Lightening" adaptor also functions as a device port
> allowing Apple to control which devices can be connected....

When Apple introduced the Lightning (not "LightEning") port in 2012,
they did so because it was a better option than the USB connectors
available at the time; both reversible for ease of use and stronger than
the available mini/micro USB connectors available (and also design so
that if too much force was put on it, the plug would break and not the
port in the device).

This means that for more than a decade people have been purchasing
Lightning accessories to use with their phones. For Apple to have too
quickly changed from Lightning to USB would have been a huge disservice
to its customers.

And "interaction" is not the same thing as "interoperation".

Changing the charging port doesn't make a device running iOS any more
"interOPERABLE" with an Android device (or any other non-iOS device).

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