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* Bluetooth pairing namesdavid
+* Re: Bluetooth pairing namesDave Royal
|+- Re: Bluetooth pairing namesknuttle
|`* Re: Bluetooth pairing namesCarlos E.R.
| +* Re: Bluetooth pairing namesCarlos E.R.
| |`* Re: Bluetooth pairing namesArno Welzel
| | `* Re: Bluetooth pairing namesdavid
| |  `- Re: Bluetooth pairing namesArno Welzel
| `* Re: Bluetooth pairing namesArno Welzel
|  `- Re: Bluetooth pairing namesCarlos E.R.
`- Re: Bluetooth pairing namesJasen Betts

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Subject: Bluetooth pairing names
From: david
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.os.linux
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:43 UTC
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From: this@is.invalid (david)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux
Subject: Bluetooth pairing names
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:43:38 -0700
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I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
(like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Dave Royal
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.os.linux
Organization: news.eternal-september.org
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 07:29 UTC
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From: dave@dave123royal.com (Dave Royal)
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>
> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>
> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
to change the name - once paired.
--
Remove numerics from my email address.

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: knuttle
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From: keith_nuttle@yahoo.com (knuttle)
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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On 12/26/2024 2:29 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>
>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>
>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>
> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
> The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
> controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
> to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
> to change the name - once paired.
On my Moto G Pure, when I change the name on the device, the name is
used on the computer to identify the connection

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Carlos E.R.
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.os.linux
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 20:20 UTC
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 21:20:27 +0100
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On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>
>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>
>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>
> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
> The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
> controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
> to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
> to change the name - once paired.

Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
to them?

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Carlos E.R.
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.os.linux
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 20:31 UTC
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
>> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>>
>>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of
>>> like
>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth
>>> names
>>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>>
>>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>>
>> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>>   The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>>   controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>>   to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>>   to change the name - once paired.
>
> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
> to them?

I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones,
computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?

What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
or only in my phone.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Arno Welzel
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.os.linux
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 20:35 UTC
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From: usenet@arnowelzel.de (Arno Welzel)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:20:

> On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
>> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>>
>>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>>
>>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>>
>> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>> The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>> controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>> to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>> to change the name - once paired.
>
> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
> to them?

Yes, you can change the name. At least Android allows to do this and as
far I remember, Windows and Linux also allow this. And it is the
computer or smartphone which will remember that name, since the pairing
of the device is stored, even if the headphone is not connected.

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Carlos E.R.
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.os.linux
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 21:00 UTC
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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On 2024-12-26 21:35, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:20:
>
>> On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>>>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>>>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>>>
>>>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>>>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>>>
>>>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>>>
>>> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>>> The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>>> controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>>> to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>>> to change the name - once paired.
>>
>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
>> to them?
>
> Yes, you can change the name. At least Android allows to do this and as
> far I remember, Windows and Linux also allow this. And it is the
> computer or smartphone which will remember that name, since the pairing
> of the device is stored, even if the headphone is not connected.
>

Ah. Thanks.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Arno Welzel
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 23:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:

> On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
[...]
>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
>> to them?
>
> I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones,
> computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?

No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.

> What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
> or only in my phone.

Only in your phone.

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: david
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From: this@is.invalid (david)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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Using <news:lt68kiF1ge3U1@mid.individual.net>, Arno Welzel wrote:

> Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:
>
>> On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> [...]
>>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
>>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
>>> to them?
>>
>> I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones,
>> computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?
>
> No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.
>
>> What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
>> or only in my phone.
>
> Only in your phone.

Is there a Bluetooth unique name lookup table somewhere on the Internet?

Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
From: Arno Welzel
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david, 2024-12-27 03:42:

> Using <news:lt68kiF1ge3U1@mid.individual.net>, Arno Welzel wrote:
>
>> Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:
>>
>>> On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
>>>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
>>>> to them?
>>>
>>> I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones,
>>> computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?
>>
>> No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.
>>
>>> What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
>>> or only in my phone.
>>
>> Only in your phone.
>
> Is there a Bluetooth unique name lookup table somewhere on the Internet?

I'm not aware of any. But this is not needed since the device is not
identified by its name but by the device ID. The name is just text
offered by the device. A host (like a smartphone) will display the name
as it is offered, but you can change that, if you need to. The device ID
will stay the same, even with a different name in the host.

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Subject: Re: Bluetooth pairing names
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On 2024-12-26, david <this@is.invalid> wrote:
> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>
> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>
> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

As I understand it the name is sent over the air, along with the MAC
address and other actually unique identifiers.

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