On 2024-05-12, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> In article <20240509.184236.5b5c4bf3@erienetworks.net>
> Yamn Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> <https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/?utm_source=grugq&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=may-9-2023-3701&guccounter=1>
>
> "Wire responded providing the email address used to register the Wire
> account, which was a Protonmail address. Proton responded providing
> the recovery email for that Protonmail account, which was an iCloud
> email address, according to the documents."
>
> "Once the Guardia Civil obtained the iCloud email address, the
> documents show that it requested information from Apple, which in turn
> provided a full name, two home addresses and a linked Gmail account."
>
> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.

By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
trusted. 🤡 Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
address of an account holder. 🤣

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Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :

>> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
>
> By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
> trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
> request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
> address of an account holder.

He's right that, of all companies, Apple is the least trustworthy.

Since Apple _requires_ you to log into your account 24/7/365, if you don't
continually log into that account, Apple will unilaterally lock you out.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
<https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login

Once Apple locks you out of your own device, take a guess at what Apple's
officialy policy is for them allowing you back into your own device.

Yup.

You have to SHOW APPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT ID!
Then they record it.

They tell you this at the Genius bar that it's "for your safety".

No other company but Apple does this huge invasion of privacy.

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :
>
>>> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
>>
>> By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
>> trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
>> request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
>> address of an account holder.
>
>He's right that, of all companies, Apple is the least trustworthy.
>
>Since Apple _requires_ you to log into your account 24/7/365, if you don't
>continually log into that account, Apple will unilaterally lock you out.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
> <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
> <https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
> <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
> <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login
>
>Once Apple locks you out of your own device, take a guess at what Apple's
>officialy policy is for them allowing you back into your own device.
>
>Yup.
>
>You have to SHOW APPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT ID!
>Then they record it.
>
>They tell you this at the Genius bar that it's "for your safety".
>
>No other company but Apple does this huge invasion of privacy.

Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
(or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 5/12/24 1:13 PM, Joel wrote:

> Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
> privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
> (or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.

OTOH, I was chewed out PERSONALLY by JWZ for running as root. Takes all
kinds.

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The Real Bev wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 13:20:47 -0700 :

>> Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
>> privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
>> (or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.
>
> OTOH, I was chewed out PERSONALLY by JWZ for running as root. Takes all
> kinds.

I test phones and tablets. That's why I have iOS.

But that's why I'm well aware that there is nothing an iOS device can do
that Android doesn't already do - and yet - the opposite is not true.

There's so much that Android does that iOS can't do that it's just sad.

The iPhone is a barely functional toy which is set up as a dumb terminal.
Nothing works inside that iPhone unless you log into Apple's mainframes.

The iPHone can't even run a system-wide firewall, nor do automatic call
recording, nor can it re-install apps on another phone without the same
AppleID nor can it spoof gps location, nor can it provide real tor
anonymity, nor can it save photos given any desired file-naming format, nor
can it graphically debug cellular and wi-fi signals, nor can it set the
default dialer, or the default contacts manager or the default camera app,
etc.

The fact iOS can't do what every other OS easily does proves it's a toy.

Luckily, on Android all free apps install on any Android phone, which is a
valuable feature that apparently is "not needed" & "not wanted" only for
iOS (since every other platform easily installs any free installer on any
device, no matter what login ID is used on that device - except for iOS).

It's no longer shocking how much of a dumb terminal the toy iPhone is...

Why can't iOS save photos to a user-defined timedate format like Android?
Where are the wifi graphical debuggers on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the encryption container tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the automatic call recorder tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the system wide foss firewalls on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the fake gps spoofing apps on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the true ad free youtube clones on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the historical IPA backup tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where are the system wide foss ad blocking on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
Where's the real foss torproject tor browser on iOS (hint, no privacy!).
etc.

The fact remains there is _zero_ app functionality on iOS not on Android.

The reason is logical, obvious, and devilishly simple in nature...
a. The _market_ determines the app functionality (not the OEM).
b. Apple drastically limits what apps the market can provide.
c. Google can't.

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

>I test phones and tablets. That's why I have iOS.
>
>But that's why I'm well aware that there is nothing an iOS device can do
>that Android doesn't already do - and yet - the opposite is not true.
>
>There's so much that Android does that iOS can't do that it's just sad.
>
>The iPhone is a barely functional toy which is set up as a dumb terminal.
>Nothing works inside that iPhone unless you log into Apple's mainframes.
>
>The iPHone can't even run a system-wide firewall, nor do automatic call
>recording, nor can it re-install apps on another phone without the same
>AppleID nor can it spoof gps location, nor can it provide real tor
>anonymity, nor can it save photos given any desired file-naming format, nor
>can it graphically debug cellular and wi-fi signals, nor can it set the
>default dialer, or the default contacts manager or the default camera app,
>etc.
>
>The fact iOS can't do what every other OS easily does proves it's a toy.
>
>Luckily, on Android all free apps install on any Android phone, which is a
>valuable feature that apparently is "not needed" & "not wanted" only for
>iOS (since every other platform easily installs any free installer on any
>device, no matter what login ID is used on that device - except for iOS).
>
>It's no longer shocking how much of a dumb terminal the toy iPhone is...
>
>Why can't iOS save photos to a user-defined timedate format like Android?
>Where are the wifi graphical debuggers on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the encryption container tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the automatic call recorder tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the system wide foss firewalls on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the fake gps spoofing apps on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the true ad free youtube clones on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the historical IPA backup tools on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where are the system wide foss ad blocking on iOS (hint, it's brain dead).
>Where's the real foss torproject tor browser on iOS (hint, no privacy!).
>etc.
>
>The fact remains there is _zero_ app functionality on iOS not on Android.
>
>The reason is logical, obvious, and devilishly simple in nature...
>a. The _market_ determines the app functionality (not the OEM).
>b. Apple drastically limits what apps the market can provide.
>c. Google can't.

Quite interesting. Certainly, I have a Galaxy S phone, not Apple's
odd-to-me product.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-12, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :
>
>>> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
>>
>> By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
>> trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
>> request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
>> address of an account holder.
>
> He's right

I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you, Arlen.

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On 2024-05-12, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :
>>
>>>> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
>>>
>>> By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
>>> trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
>>> request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
>>> address of an account holder.
>>
>>He's right that, of all companies, Apple is the least trustworthy.
>>
>>Since Apple _requires_ you to log into your account 24/7/365, if you don't
>>continually log into that account, Apple will unilaterally lock you out.
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login
>>
>>Once Apple locks you out of your own device, take a guess at what Apple's
>>officialy policy is for them allowing you back into your own device.
>>
>>Yup.
>>
>>You have to SHOW APPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT ID!
>>Then they record it.
>>
>>They tell you this at the Genius bar that it's "for your safety".
>>
>>No other company but Apple does this huge invasion of privacy.
>
> Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
> privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
> (or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.

You're gullible. Logging into Apple servers is *optional* and always has
been. He's been corrected numerous times on these lies and just keeps
repeating them because he knows people like you will fall for it without
question. Good work.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin)

First off, respect for that. macOS *is* cool as a Unix flavor.

>On 2024-05-12, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>>Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :
>>>
>>>>> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
>>>>
>>>> By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
>>>> trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
>>>> request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
>>>> address of an account holder.
>>>
>>>He's right that, of all companies, Apple is the least trustworthy.
>>>
>>>Since Apple _requires_ you to log into your account 24/7/365, if you don't
>>>continually log into that account, Apple will unilaterally lock you out.
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login
>>>
>>>Once Apple locks you out of your own device, take a guess at what Apple's
>>>officialy policy is for them allowing you back into your own device.
>>>
>>>Yup.
>>>
>>>You have to SHOW APPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT ID!
>>>Then they record it.
>>>
>>>They tell you this at the Genius bar that it's "for your safety".
>>>
>>>No other company but Apple does this huge invasion of privacy.
>>
>> Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
>> privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
>> (or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.
>
>You're gullible. Logging into Apple servers is *optional* and always has
>been. He's been corrected numerous times on these lies and just keeps
>repeating them because he knows people like you will fall for it without
>question. Good work.

Fair enough. I can admit a mistake. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do
appreciate the, intelligent, people who use their stuff.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 17:09:43 -0400 :

>>The reason is logical, obvious, and devilishly simple in nature...
>>a. The _market_ determines the app functionality (not the OEM).
>>b. Apple drastically limits what apps the market can provide.
>>c. Google can't.
>
> Quite interesting. Certainly, I have a Galaxy S phone, not Apple's
> odd-to-me product.

Do you ever organize your home screen the way you want on that Galaxy?
The iPhone can't do that.

Do you ever install an app onto that Galaxy after downloading that app APK
from another platform (and perhaps stored on a USB drive)?
The iPhone can't do that.

Do you ever plug in your Galaxy over USB to a PC to copy files _to_ that
Galaxy device? The iPhone can't do that.

Do you ever list the apps that you have installed on your Galaxy to a file
so that you can send that editable list to someone else to populate theirs?
The iPhone can't do that.

Do you ever just set a different default camera app or a default messenger
app than the one Samsung gave you on that Galaxy? The iPhone can't do that.

The iPhone can't do thousands of fundamental things that every other OS
does, which is the evidence for the statement that an iPhone is a mere toy.

Not only is the iPhone a toy that only looks like a real phone, but the
iPhone is also a dumb terminal in that nothing you like works outside the
walled garden (which requires you to log into Apple servers 24/7/365).

If you owned both platforms, which I do, you'd know this, but the ignorant
uneducated Apple zealots you're conversing with know nothing of Android.

Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 20:40:59 -0400 :

>>You're gullible. Logging into Apple servers is *optional* and always has
>>been. He's been corrected numerous times on these lies and just keeps
>>repeating them because he knows people like you will fall for it without
>>question. Good work.
>
> Fair enough. I can admit a mistake. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do
> appreciate the, intelligent, people who use their stuff.

Notice how these uneducated Apple religious zealots show no proof?
All they do, day in and day out, is deny how Apple iPhones really work.

If logging into Apple servers is "optional", ask this uneducated ignorant
Jolly Roger Apple zealot how he uses the default messenger app without it.

What this uneducated ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot will say is "nobody
needs a default messenger" and "nobody wants a default messenger" app.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional

If logging into Apple servers is "optional", ask this uneducated ignorant
Jolly Roger Apple zealot how he installs apps on his iPhone without it.

What this uneducated ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot will say is "nobody
needs apps" and "nobody wants apps" which can only come from the App Store.
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZR5mZ287/appleid07.jpg> Apple fails App Store test

The iPhone is nothing more than a toy operating system, but even so, at
least it acts like a dumb terminal when it logs into Apple mainframes
(which have to be logged into constantly, 24/7/365 for the walled garden to
function).

If you don't log into Apple mainframe tracking servers 24/7/365, then all
the things that this uneducated ignorant Jolly Roger Apple religious zealot
likes about the iPhone's walled garden will instantly no longer work.
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!

Ask me how I know this.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login

Remember, Android _never_ requires an account on a Google server to work!
(In fact, Android works better w/o adding that extra Google Account to it!)

Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :

> I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you

Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything, sans even
a single reference cite to back up claims, answer these please.

Q: *Does Apple fully support more than one major release or not?*
A: ?

HINT: Apple fully supports only one release ever! (iOS 17 currently)

Q: *Does the iPhone have ten times the exploits that Android has?*
A: ?

HINT: It's _more_ than ten times the number of active exploits!

Q: *Does Samsung & Google fully support multiple releases or not?*
A: ?

HINT: Apple fully supports one release only while Google/Samsung
fully support multiple releases at the same time, for years.

REFERENCES for QUESTION #1:
*About software updates for Apple devices*
<https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>
"not all known security issues are addressed in previous versions
(for example, macOS 13, iOS 16, and so on)"
<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

REFERENCE for QUESTION #2:
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

REFERENCES for QUESTION #3:
*Samsung Extends Android and Security Updates to 7 Years*
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
"Samsung phones now come backed with seven years' worth of
security updates and seven generations of OS upgrades."

*Google just put Apple and Samsung on notice - 7 years of software updates*
<https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/google-pixel-8-software-updates>
"That support covers everything, including full Android updates,
the regular Pixel feature drops and security updates."

If the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots want to dispute these
facts, ask them to provide references such as I do for all my facts.

Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?

On 2024-05-13, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 20:40:59 -0400 :
>
>>>You're gullible. Logging into Apple servers is *optional* and always
>>>has been. He's been corrected numerous times on these lies and just
>>>keeps repeating them because he knows people like you will fall for
>>>it without question. Good work.
>>
>> Fair enough. I can admit a mistake. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do
>> appreciate the, intelligent, people who use their stuff.
>
> Notice how these uneducated Apple religious zealots show no proof?
> All they do, day in and day out, is deny how Apple iPhones really
> work.
>
> If logging into Apple servers is "optional", ask this uneducated
> ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot how he uses the default messenger
> app without it.

Arlen here doesn't want you to know that you can send and receive
SMS/MMS messages on iPhones without logging into any Apple server. He
also wants to pretend that you can use other internet messaging services
like WhatsApp, Signal, and so on *without* logging into a server, which
is ridiculous. Arlen isn't a serious person. He's a troll.

> What this uneducated ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot will say is
> "nobody needs a default messenger" and "nobody wants a default
> messenger" app.

Arlen here doesn't want people to think for themselves, because
otherwise they'd know that the default Apple Messages app lets you send
and receive SMS/MMS messages without signing into anything. And anyone
with an IQ over above a rock knows you need to sign into internet
messaging services in order to use them.

> If logging into Apple servers is "optional", ask this uneducated
> ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot how he installs apps on his iPhone
> without it.

Arlen here wants to blissfully ignore the fact that all App Stores
require logins. He's a clown.

[remainder of Arlen's ridiculous claims rightfully ignored]

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On 2024-05-13, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
>
>> I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
>
> Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
> unilaterally declared that they are right on everything

Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said
something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such weak
trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.

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On 2024-05-13, Relf <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
> Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
>> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>
> Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?

Have I told you how I don't give a shit about signatures? Cry harder.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:31:20 GMT :

> On 2024-05-13, Relf <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>> Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
>>> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>>
>> Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
>
> Have I told you how I don't give a shit about signatures? Cry harder.

I think what Jeff Relf was trying to explain to the ignorant uneducated
Apple religious zealot Jolly Roger was that Google no longer allows nntp
posting to Usenet via the Google Groups server as of February 22nd, 2024.

Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:30:08 GMT :

> something I never said

The fact is you ignorant uneducated Apple religious zealots lied for years
claiming Apple fully supported more than one release - yet that's wrong.

You uneducated religious Apple zealots know NOTHING about iOS.

You lied for years claiming iOS was more secure even though iOS has over
ten times the exploits in the wild than Android has. Ten times more!

You lied for years claiming iOS has privacy when it is the only operating
system that inserts your unique Apple ID tracking number into every app.

iOS is the only operating system that doesn't have the privacy of Tor.
You lied for years about all of this, and more, Jolly Roger.

Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:27:19 GMT :

> all App Stores require logins. He's a clown.

Yet the fact remains to own an iPhone is to have no privacy.

You uneducated Apple ignorant religious zealots know absolutely nothing of
what you say since you are unaware that you can download and install apps
from the Google Play Store without ever setting any Google Account on an
any Android phone.

Only iOS requires a tracking account on the phone to install apps, and only
iOS tags every single app with your unique tracking AppleID identification.

No other common consumer operating system destroys your privacy like that.

On 2024-05-13, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:27:19 GMT :
>
>> all App Stores require logins. He's a clown.
>
> Yet the fact remains to own an iPhone is to have no privacy.

Little Arlen tries to move the goalpost again. You're an abject failure,
Arlen.

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Like a toddler, showing off his logs to anyone who will look,
Jolly_Roger ENDLESSLY repeats the following, expecting a happy response:
> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

My, what a wonderfully large & odiferous hunk of poo you have there !

Have you thought about spreading it all over you face before you
go out and play with your other friends ?

"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:

>Like a toddler, showing off his logs to anyone who will look,
>Jolly_Roger ENDLESSLY repeats the following, expecting a happy response:
>> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>
>My, what a wonderfully large & odiferous hunk of poo you have there !
>
>Have you thought about spreading it all over you face before you
>go out and play with your other friends ?

You did notice that it was under the "-- " delimiting his sig, Jeff?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-13, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>> Like a toddler, showing off his logs to anyone who will look,
>> Jolly_Roger ENDLESSLY repeats the following, expecting a happy
>> response:
>>> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>>
>> My, what a wonderfully large & odiferous hunk of poo you have there !
>>
>> Have you thought about spreading it all over you face before you go
>> out and play with your other friends ?
>
> You did notice that it was under the "-- " delimiting his sig, Jeff?

Imagine getting that emotional over something as inconsequential as
someone else's Usenet signature. 🤣 These people aren't serious.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 13 May 2024, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> posted some
news:v1tkgn$1pbt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:

> Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:31:20 GMT :
>
>> On 2024-05-13, Relf <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>> Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
>>>> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>>>
>>> Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
>>
>> Have I told you how I don't give a shit about signatures? Cry harder.
>
> I think what Jeff Relf was trying to explain to the ignorant
> uneducated Apple religious zealot Jolly Roger was that Google no
> longer allows nntp posting to Usenet via the Google Groups server as
> of February 22nd, 2024.

That's really too bad because it reduced the number of available victims.

On 13 May 2024, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> posted some
news:laemfgF48j9U4@mid.individual.net:

> On 2024-05-13, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
>>
>>> I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
>>
>> Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
>> unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
>
> Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said
> something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such weak
> trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.

I believe you just made his point.