In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2024-12-06 13:44, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:57:47 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-12-05 02:38, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>>> On 4 Dec 2024 11:33:21 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> The ones that I can afford offer 4-6 GB of storage, which is less than
>>>>>>> the 16GB in the phone I have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you post a link? 4-6 GB isn't enough to install Android so I find that
>>>>>> hard to believe.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 4-6GB is clearly *RAM*, not (permanent) Internal Storage. I've
>>>>> replied to Steve about that mixup.
>>>>
>>>> The terminology in the ads is not very clear, thank you for your
>>>> clarifications.
>>>>
>>>> They refer to RAM and ROM.
>>>>
>>>> I assumed that the ROM contained the operating system and apps that
>>>> were factory-installed, and that it would not be available for apps
>>>> that are downloaded and installed later, since it is "read-only" and
>>>> therefore could not be subsequently written to.
>>>
>>> I doubt the adds mention ROM.
>>>
>>> The link you posted <hayesstw@yahoo.com> does not mention ROM, for instance.
>>>
>>> It is RAM and Flash. Your advert doesn't even say flash, but it is flash.
>>
>> If the ad had said flash, I would have found it easier to understand.
>> But it said ROM.
>
>I searched for the word "ROM" in the entire page
><https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php> and it just does not
>happen.
>
>>
>> For example, it says the the Samsung A05s has 4GB RAM 64GB ROM
>
>Link, please.

Steve seems to have forgotten but his original link
https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/

Says RAM: 1GB
ROM: 8GB / 16GB*

Of course phonemore is not Samsung or Gsmarena. I don't know who pays
for it or why they have it. I don't think they're getting rich on their
advertising. For that matter, I don't know who pays for gsmarena.

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On 2024-12-06 13:44, Steve Hayes wrote:
[...]
> >> If the ad had said flash, I would have found it easier to understand.
> >> But it said ROM.
> >
> >I searched for the word "ROM" in the entire page
> ><https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php> and it just does not
> >happen.
> >
> >> For example, it says the the Samsung A05s has 4GB RAM 64GB ROM
> >
> >Link, please.
>
> Steve seems to have forgotten but his original link
> https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/
>
> Says RAM: 1GB
> ROM: 8GB / 16GB*
>
> Of course phonemore is not Samsung or Gsmarena. I don't know who pays
> for it or why they have it. I don't think they're getting rich on their
> advertising. For that matter, I don't know who pays for gsmarena.

As I have said before, the phonemore.com page for the Samsung A2 Core
(SM-A260F) indeed says "ROM: 8GB / 16GB*", but it *also* and very
*clearly* says:

"Memory and storage

RAM memory 1GB LPDDR3

Internal storage 16GB (12GB available)
eMMC 5.1

External storage V Until 256GB microSD, microSDXC
(dedicated slot)"

So someone who pays a tiny bit of attention, sees that the phone has
16GB of Internal Storage. Never mind incorrect/misleading terms like
"ROM", "flash", etc..

BTW, Carlos looked at a different site (gsmarena.com instead of
phonemore.com), a different brand (Realme instead of Samsung) and a
totally different category of phone.

On 2024-12-10 17:59, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-12-06 13:44, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:57:47 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-12-05 02:38, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>>>> On 4 Dec 2024 11:33:21 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> The ones that I can afford offer 4-6 GB of storage, which is less than
>>>>>>>> the 16GB in the phone I have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you post a link? 4-6 GB isn't enough to install Android so I find that
>>>>>>> hard to believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 4-6GB is clearly *RAM*, not (permanent) Internal Storage. I've
>>>>>> replied to Steve about that mixup.
>>>>>
>>>>> The terminology in the ads is not very clear, thank you for your
>>>>> clarifications.
>>>>>
>>>>> They refer to RAM and ROM.
>>>>>
>>>>> I assumed that the ROM contained the operating system and apps that
>>>>> were factory-installed, and that it would not be available for apps
>>>>> that are downloaded and installed later, since it is "read-only" and
>>>>> therefore could not be subsequently written to.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt the adds mention ROM.
>>>>
>>>> The link you posted <hayesstw@yahoo.com> does not mention ROM, for instance.
>>>>
>>>> It is RAM and Flash. Your advert doesn't even say flash, but it is flash.
>>>
>>> If the ad had said flash, I would have found it easier to understand.
>>> But it said ROM.
>>
>> I searched for the word "ROM" in the entire page
>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php> and it just does not
>> happen.
>>
>>>
>>> For example, it says the the Samsung A05s has 4GB RAM 64GB ROM
>>
>> Link, please.
>
>
> Steve seems to have forgotten but his original link
> https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/
>
> Says RAM: 1GB
> ROM: 8GB / 16GB*

Right, it does, in the summary

>
> Of course phonemore is not Samsung or Gsmarena. I don't know who pays
> for it or why they have it. I don't think they're getting rich on their
> advertising. For that matter, I don't know who pays for gsmarena.

A bit below the summary are the details:

Memory and storage

RAM memory 1GB LPDDR3
Internal storage 16GB (12GB available) eMMC 5.1
External storage Until 256GB microSD, microSDXC (dedicated slot)

So it is not actually ROM.
They do print a lot of details in readable format, which is good.

--
Cheers, Carlos.