On 12/6/24 9:28 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> On 12/5/24 11:35 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-05 19:32, Joel wrote:
>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Make sure to also include an NVMe benched on the open slot that's on the
>>>>> slower PCIe 3 bus that you've been saying is your 'future expansion'.
>>>>
>>>> You act as though PCI-e 3 isn't great already.
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)>
>>
>> Joel's acting as though Thunderbolt 3 wasn't great already:
>>
>> * bandwidth of a PCIe 3.0 x4 is 4 gigabytes per second = 4 GB/.
>>
>> * Thunderbolt 3's bandwidth is 4000 MB/s = 5 GB/s.
>>
>> And 2024 Macs have TB5, which means 10 GB/sec bandwidth, enabling
>> an external SSD to perform like a 2TB internal Apple OEM SSD from
>> a 2020 vintage Mac Studio.
>
> OK, none of that makes what I have any slower.

Nah, it shows where your claim that USB is slow is factually incorrect.

So much for your standards for "high end" which just aren't really...

Plus it shows that stuff just gets labelled by you as 'overpriced' is
also higher performance gear than your self-proclaimed "high end" stuff.

Per the old adage of "Speed cost money. How fast can you afford to go?",
its evident that you're deriding that which you want, but won't afford.

....and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s

-hh

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 12/6/24 9:28 AM, Joel wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>> On 12/5/24 11:35 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-05 19:32, Joel wrote:
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Make sure to also include an NVMe benched on the open slot that's on the
>>>>>> slower PCIe 3 bus that you've been saying is your 'future expansion'.
>>>>>
>>>>> You act as though PCI-e 3 isn't great already.
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)>
>>>
>>> Joel's acting as though Thunderbolt 3 wasn't great already:
>>>
>>> * bandwidth of a PCIe 3.0 x4 is 4 gigabytes per second = 4 GB/.
>>>
>>> * Thunderbolt 3's bandwidth is 4000 MB/s = 5 GB/s.
>>>
>>> And 2024 Macs have TB5, which means 10 GB/sec bandwidth, enabling
>>> an external SSD to perform like a 2TB internal Apple OEM SSD from
>>> a 2020 vintage Mac Studio.
>>
>> OK, none of that makes what I have any slower.
>
>Nah, it shows where your claim that USB is slow is factually incorrect.
>
>So much for your standards for "high end" which just aren't really...
>
>Plus it shows that stuff just gets labelled by you as 'overpriced' is
>also higher performance gear than your self-proclaimed "high end" stuff.
>
>Per the old adage of "Speed cost money. How fast can you afford to go?",
>its evident that you're deriding that which you want, but won't afford.
>
>...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s
>
>
>-hh

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 12/6/24 9:28 AM, Joel wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>> On 12/5/24 11:35 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-05 19:32, Joel wrote:
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Make sure to also include an NVMe benched on the open slot that's on the
>>>>>> slower PCIe 3 bus that you've been saying is your 'future expansion'.
>>>>>
>>>>> You act as though PCI-e 3 isn't great already.
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)>
>>>
>>> Joel's acting as though Thunderbolt 3 wasn't great already:
>>>
>>> * bandwidth of a PCIe 3.0 x4 is 4 gigabytes per second = 4 GB/.
>>>
>>> * Thunderbolt 3's bandwidth is 4000 MB/s = 5 GB/s.
>>>
>>> And 2024 Macs have TB5, which means 10 GB/sec bandwidth, enabling
>>> an external SSD to perform like a 2TB internal Apple OEM SSD from
>>> a 2020 vintage Mac Studio.
>>
>> OK, none of that makes what I have any slower.
>
>Nah, it shows where your claim that USB is slow is factually incorrect.
>
>So much for your standards for "high end" which just aren't really...
>
>Plus it shows that stuff just gets labelled by you as 'overpriced' is
>also higher performance gear than your self-proclaimed "high end" stuff.
>
>Per the old adage of "Speed cost money. How fast can you afford to go?",
>its evident that you're deriding that which you want, but won't afford.
>
>...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s

I haven't addressed the external storage's speed, but immediate access
of internal drives is a higher grade or level.

That being said, Win11 and 10 did install pretty painlessly, on my
system. Just one becomes aware that Linux will trump anything

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> what [is] the difference in cost is between your Linux
>>> system and an equivalent Mac[?].
>>>
>>> Funny that, huh?
>>
>> It's definitely cheaper [to use self-assembled computers].
>
>So show us all!
>
>Show us how much smarter you are!
>
>Show us how you "won"!

Cut the $200 I didn't need to pay M$, and I paid a pittance for what I
have now.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>Joel actually spent [allegedly too much], by accepting SSD performance that's only
>equal to his current, instead of 2x as fast by using a external, and
>skip the RAM upgrade as a BS claim:
>
>Base Mini with SSD bumped to 512 +1TB external SSD: $800 +$100 = $900.
>
>Outcome: significantly superior performing hardware, and with 1.5TB
>total storage instead of just 1TB...for 22% less money.
>
>And one _still_ has the option of running Linux on it, plus there's zero
>financial cost to go back to MacOS if you decide that was a mistake.

My parts stand at under $1000.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-11-23 18:12, Joel wrote:

>>>>> "it [Windows 10] was a minor upgrade to Win8.1"
>>>>
>>>> Uh, I had Windows 8.x and early Windows 10 on my old computer. I know
>>>> what the fuck I'm talking about, that's why I'm reading this thread in
>>>> COLA, where we debate OSes.
>>>
>>> So what you have is purely a personal anecdote.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>
>> No, it's not an anecdote.
>
>Yes. It was.
>
>> I was a comp sci major, while I was in
>> college. I pay attention to finer details. I know what Windows 10
>> was in 2015, vs. 2020 and later.
>That is precisely what a personal anecdote is.

Dude, I saw 20H2 on two machines. I saw Win11 from day one. I have
earned the place to be a critic.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-06 16:28, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 12/6/24 9:28 AM, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/24 11:35 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-12-05 19:32, Joel wrote:
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make sure to also include an NVMe benched on the open slot that's on the
>>>>>>> slower PCIe 3 bus that you've been saying is your 'future expansion'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You act as though PCI-e 3 isn't great already.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)>
>>>>
>>>> Joel's acting as though Thunderbolt 3 wasn't great already:
>>>>
>>>> * bandwidth of a PCIe 3.0 x4 is 4 gigabytes per second = 4 GB/.
>>>>
>>>> * Thunderbolt 3's bandwidth is 4000 MB/s = 5 GB/s.
>>>>
>>>> And 2024 Macs have TB5, which means 10 GB/sec bandwidth, enabling
>>>> an external SSD to perform like a 2TB internal Apple OEM SSD from
>>>> a 2020 vintage Mac Studio.
>>>
>>> OK, none of that makes what I have any slower.
>>
>> Nah, it shows where your claim that USB is slow is factually incorrect.
>>
>> So much for your standards for "high end" which just aren't really...
>>
>> Plus it shows that stuff just gets labelled by you as 'overpriced' is
>> also higher performance gear than your self-proclaimed "high end" stuff.
>>
>> Per the old adage of "Speed cost money. How fast can you afford to go?",
>> its evident that you're deriding that which you want, but won't afford.
>>
>> ...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s
>
>
> I haven't addressed the external storage's speed, but immediate access
> of internal drives is a higher grade or level.

That is a question of speed and you're just making yourself look stupid
by trying to create clever sounding phrases.

>
> That being said, Win11 and 10 did install pretty painlessly, on my
> system. Just one becomes aware that Linux will trump anything
>

On 2024-12-06 16:59, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-23 18:12, Joel wrote:
>
>>>>>> "it [Windows 10] was a minor upgrade to Win8.1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh, I had Windows 8.x and early Windows 10 on my old computer. I know
>>>>> what the fuck I'm talking about, that's why I'm reading this thread in
>>>>> COLA, where we debate OSes.
>>>>
>>>> So what you have is purely a personal anecdote.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> No, it's not an anecdote.
>>
>> Yes. It was.
>>
>>> I was a comp sci major, while I was in
>>> college. I pay attention to finer details. I know what Windows 10
>>> was in 2015, vs. 2020 and later.
>> That is precisely what a personal anecdote is.
>
>
> Dude, I saw 20H2 on two machines. I saw Win11 from day one. I have
> earned the place to be a critic.
>

Wow!

A whole TWO MACHINES?

You're qualified to write the OS now!

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-06 16:28, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s
>>
>> I haven't addressed the external storage's speed, but immediate access
>> of internal drives is a higher grade or level.
>
>That is a question of speed and you're just making yourself look stupid
>by trying to create clever sounding phrases.

And you appear to be a genius, to have out-reasoned me at every turn,
along with -hh, it's amusing.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> I was a comp sci major, while I was in
>>>> college. I pay attention to finer details. I know what Windows 10
>>>> was in 2015, vs. 2020 and later.
>>> That is precisely what a personal anecdote is.
>>
>> Dude, I saw 20H2 on two machines. I saw Win11 from day one. I have
>> earned the place to be a critic.
>
>Wow!
>
>A whole TWO MACHINES?
>
>You're qualified to write the OS now!

You're a jackass.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-06 19:00, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-06 16:28, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s
>>>
>>> I haven't addressed the external storage's speed, but immediate access
>>> of internal drives is a higher grade or level.
>>
>> That is a question of speed and you're just making yourself look stupid
>> by trying to create clever sounding phrases.
>
>
> And you appear to be a genius, to have out-reasoned me at every turn,
> along with -hh, it's amusing.
>

You haven't even understood the basic facts of what Thunderbolt is, doofus.

How is that my problem?

On 12/6/24 7:28 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>> Joel actually spent [allegedly too much], by accepting SSD performance that's only
>> equal to his current, instead of 2x as fast by using a external, and
>> skip the RAM upgrade as a BS claim:
>>
>> Base Mini with SSD bumped to 512 +1TB external SSD: $800 +$100 = $900.
>>
>> Outcome: significantly superior performing hardware, and with 1.5TB
>> total storage instead of just 1TB...for 22% less money.
>>
>> And one _still_ has the option of running Linux on it, plus there's zero
>> financial cost to go back to MacOS if you decide that was a mistake.
>
> My parts stand at under $1000.

Yes, your hardware's at ~$950, because you've been desperately trying to
ignore the $200 that you also spent on a Windows license as a mistake.

Unfortunately, "do-overs" from mistakes is part of the risk of DIY'ing.
Just ask that guy who bought a 4100 graphics card after his integrated
GPU was supposedly inadequate for supporting even but one 4K display.

-hh

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-06 19:00, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-06 16:28, Joel wrote:
>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s
>>>>
>>>> I haven't addressed the external storage's speed, but immediate access
>>>> of internal drives is a higher grade or level.
>>>
>>> That is a question of speed and you're just making yourself look stupid
>>> by trying to create clever sounding phrases.
>>
>> And you appear to be a genius, to have out-reasoned me at every turn,
>> along with -hh, it's amusing.
>
>You haven't even understood the basic facts of what Thunderbolt is, doofus.
>
>How is that my problem?

I understand the claim that Thunderbolt's speed is comparable to
internal's. I accept it, even. It doesn't magically make an external
drive internal.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>> My parts stand at under $1000.
>
>Yes, your hardware's at ~$950, because you've been desperately trying to
>ignore the $200 that you also spent on a Windows license as a mistake.
>
>Unfortunately, "do-overs" from mistakes is part of the risk of DIY'ing.
>Just ask that guy who bought a 4100 graphics card after his integrated
>GPU was supposedly inadequate for supporting even but one 4K display.

The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
I got my money's worth out of it..

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 14:00, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-06 19:00, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-06 16:28, Joel wrote:
>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and still waiting on you to post benchmarks, too... /s
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't addressed the external storage's speed, but immediate access
>>>>> of internal drives is a higher grade or level.
>>>>
>>>> That is a question of speed and you're just making yourself look stupid
>>>> by trying to create clever sounding phrases.
>>>
>>> And you appear to be a genius, to have out-reasoned me at every turn,
>>> along with -hh, it's amusing.
>>
>> You haven't even understood the basic facts of what Thunderbolt is, doofus.
>>
>> How is that my problem?
>
>
> I understand the claim that Thunderbolt's speed is comparable to
> internal's. I accept it, even. It doesn't magically make an external
> drive internal.
But your objection was that somehow the "access" of an external drive
wasn't as "immediate", but now you accept that Thunderbolt is as fast as
an internal four lane PCIe 3.0 bus (amazing that someone who claims to
be as 1337 as yourself didn't already know about that, huh?).

So how is it less immediate?

On 2024-12-07 14:03, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>> My parts stand at under $1000.
>>
>> Yes, your hardware's at ~$950, because you've been desperately trying to
>> ignore the $200 that you also spent on a Windows license as a mistake.
>>
>> Unfortunately, "do-overs" from mistakes is part of the risk of DIY'ing.
>> Just ask that guy who bought a 4100 graphics card after his integrated
>> GPU was supposedly inadequate for supporting even but one 4K display.
>
>
> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
> I got my money's worth out of it..
>

You bought something that wasn't useful to you.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-07 14:03, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> My parts stand at under $1000.
>>>
>>> Yes, your hardware's at ~$950, because you've been desperately trying to
>>> ignore the $200 that you also spent on a Windows license as a mistake.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, "do-overs" from mistakes is part of the risk of DIY'ing.
>>> Just ask that guy who bought a 4100 graphics card after his integrated
>>> GPU was supposedly inadequate for supporting even but one 4K display.
>>
>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>
>You bought something that wasn't useful to you.

You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
your ass.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 14:39, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-07 14:03, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My parts stand at under $1000.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, your hardware's at ~$950, because you've been desperately trying to
>>>> ignore the $200 that you also spent on a Windows license as a mistake.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, "do-overs" from mistakes is part of the risk of DIY'ing.
>>>> Just ask that guy who bought a 4100 graphics card after his integrated
>>>> GPU was supposedly inadequate for supporting even but one 4K display.
>>>
>>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>>
>> You bought something that wasn't useful to you.
>
>
> You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
> your ass.
>

The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
of proves it wasn't useful to you.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-07 14:39, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-07 14:03, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>>>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>>>
>>> You bought something that wasn't useful to you.
>>
>> You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
>> your ass.
>
>The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
>of proves it wasn't useful to you.

So the 2 1/2 years between installing Win10 initially, and deleting
Win11, don't mean anything? Are you stupid?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 15:40:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
<vj2mdb$3cr2r$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-12-07 14:39, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-07 14:03, Joel wrote:
>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> My parts stand at under $1000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, your hardware's at ~$950, because you've been desperately trying to
>>>>> ignore the $200 that you also spent on a Windows license as a mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, "do-overs" from mistakes is part of the risk of DIY'ing.
>>>>> Just ask that guy who bought a 4100 graphics card after his integrated
>>>>> GPU was supposedly inadequate for supporting even but one 4K display.
>>>>
>>>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>>>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>>>
>>> You bought something that wasn't useful to you.
>>
>>
>> You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
>> your ass.
>>
>
> The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
> of proves it wasn't useful to you.

Flawed logic.

Remember: Change is the only constant.

(fu2 set to cola)

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.10 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"Mac error message: Like, dude, something's wrong."

On 2024-12-07 15:53, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-07 14:39, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-07 14:03, Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>>>>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>>>>
>>>> You bought something that wasn't useful to you.
>>>
>>> You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
>>> your ass.
>>
>> The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
>> of proves it wasn't useful to you.
>
>
> So the 2 1/2 years between installing Win10 initially, and deleting
> Win11, don't mean anything? Are you stupid?
No, they don't.

Because you've declared it wasn't good enough by the fact that you
subsequently installed Linux.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>>>>>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>>>>>
>>>>> You bought something that wasn't useful to you.
>>>>
>>>> You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
>>>> your ass.
>>>
>>> The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
>>> of proves it wasn't useful to you.
>>
>> So the 2 1/2 years between installing Win10 initially, and deleting
>> Win11, don't mean anything? Are you stupid?
>No, they don't.
>
>Because you've declared it wasn't good enough by the fact that you
>subsequently installed Linux.

What the fuck are you talking about? I installed Linux *at the time*
that the time had come. I got my 2 1/2 years with Winblows.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 16:19, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> The Windows Pro license was simply to use until Linux was preferable.
>>>>>>> I got my money's worth out of it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You bought something that wasn't useful to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are saying I didn't find Win10/11 useful. That is coming out of
>>>>> your ass.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
>>>> of proves it wasn't useful to you.
>>>
>>> So the 2 1/2 years between installing Win10 initially, and deleting
>>> Win11, don't mean anything? Are you stupid?
>> No, they don't.
>>
>> Because you've declared it wasn't good enough by the fact that you
>> subsequently installed Linux.
>
>
> What the fuck are you talking about? I installed Linux *at the time*
> that the time had come. I got my 2 1/2 years with Winblows.
>

So you're both claiming it was a good purchase (implicitly)...

....AND calling it "Winblows".

Interesting.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
>>>>> of proves it wasn't useful to you.
>>>>
>>>> So the 2 1/2 years between installing Win10 initially, and deleting
>>>> Win11, don't mean anything? Are you stupid?
>>> No, they don't.
>>>
>>> Because you've declared it wasn't good enough by the fact that you
>>> subsequently installed Linux.
>>
>> What the fuck are you talking about? I installed Linux *at the time*
>> that the time had come. I got my 2 1/2 years with Winblows.
>
>So you're both claiming it was a good purchase (implicitly)...
>
>...AND calling it "Winblows".
>
>Interesting.

Yeah, it ran fantastically for a couple years, then I moved on. This
is probably common, among savvy computer users, who know that
Microsoft supports new hardware, but even the slightest aging makes
Linux the better choice. And lo and behold, that's what I did.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-07 17:14, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> The fact that you're no longer using something you (over) paid for kind
>>>>>> of proves it wasn't useful to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the 2 1/2 years between installing Win10 initially, and deleting
>>>>> Win11, don't mean anything? Are you stupid?
>>>> No, they don't.
>>>>
>>>> Because you've declared it wasn't good enough by the fact that you
>>>> subsequently installed Linux.
>>>
>>> What the fuck are you talking about? I installed Linux *at the time*
>>> that the time had come. I got my 2 1/2 years with Winblows.
>>
>> So you're both claiming it was a good purchase (implicitly)...
>>
>> ...AND calling it "Winblows".
>>
>> Interesting.
>
>
> Yeah, it ran fantastically for a couple years, then I moved on.

That doesn't jibe with calling it "Winblows".

I mean... ...it didn't change, right?

> This
> is probably common, among savvy computer users, who know that
> Microsoft supports new hardware, but even the slightest aging makes
> Linux the better choice. And lo and behold, that's what I did.
As one who supports users of Windows (10, 11, and to a much lesser
extent, earlier versions), I can tell you that the problem is NOT aging
hardware.

But you in your technical incompetence wouldn't have figured that out.