Alan Browne wrote on Tue, 7 May 2024 08:29:18 -0400 :

> You brought up several examples of your utter lack of understanding of
> how Face ID works.

Biometric marketing gimmicks are expressly designed to make gullible but
ignorant iPhone users *feel* safe, because the factual truth is the iPhone
is (and always was) by far the most exploited smartphone on the planet.

https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

Paul wrote on Mon, 6 May 2024 21:44:52 -0400 :

> The Intel projects a pattern too.
>
> https://dev.intelrealsense.com/docs/projectors

Biometric marketing gimmicks are expressly designed to make gullible but
ignorant iPhone users *feel* safe, because the factual truth is the iPhone
is (and always was) by far the most exploited smartphone on the planet.

https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

On 2024-05-09 18:06, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 5/9/24 5:43 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-05-09 17:31, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 5/9/24 11:24 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-09 11:07, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 5/9/24 9:32 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-05-09 09:13, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/9/24 8:57 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alright, alright.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not a word.  In the same category as 'irregardless'.
>>>>>>> Ignorant and sloppy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who appointed you grammarian to the internet?
>>>>>
>>>>> I did.  Weren't you paying attention?  Please try to keep up.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is "already" a word? "Always"? Maybe "already" is almost a word?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree, there are a lot of proper al- words.  Nonetheless, during
>>>>> my literacy the expression has been "all right" and "alright"
>>>>> appeared at about the same time as thumb-spelling, indicating
>>>>> either laziness or ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bite me.
>>>>
>>>> Language evolves. Learn to deal with it. "Already" came straight from
>>>> "all ready", and the meaning is not subtly different.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly "alright" doesn't mean precisely what "all right" means.
>>>
>>> No, it means EXACTLY the same.  There's a difference between
>>> evolution and sloppiness/ignorance.
>>>
>>
>> No. It doesn't.
>>
>> I say that something is "all ready", it means that it is "ready in every
>> respect".
>>
>> "Already" clearly means:
>>
>> 'before or by now or the time in question'
>>
>> Similarly, "all right" means "correct in ever respect", and while
>> "alright" is closer in meaning, it is clearly used to ask whether
>> something is just ACCEPTABLE as opposed to the former.
>
> "All right" SHOULD mean everything ship-shape and Bristol fashion, but
> it doesn't.  It's just assent.  Similar to okay (OK), but different.

Language evolves. Deal with it.

"All right" and "alright" have different meanings.

Deal with that too.

On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:28:59 -0700, Alan wrote:

>> Jolly Roger wrote on 8 May 2024 16:22:42 GMT :
>>
>>> In reality, this isn't something most people
>>> who use Face ID worry about happening.
>>
>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe, because the
>> truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited smartphone on the planet.
>>
>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>
> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they can
> be defeated, Arlen?

You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are BIOMETRIC
locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which they would be).

W Fri, 10 May 2024 19:16:48 +0200, Bill Powell napisal:

>>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe, because the
>>> truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited smartphone on the planet.
>>>
>>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>>
>> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they can
>> be defeated, Arlen?
>
> You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are BIOMETRIC
> locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which they would be).

Do they even make biometric locks for an average homeowner's front door?

On 5/10/2024 1:24 PM, Jan K. wrote:

>>>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe, because the
>>>> truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited smartphone on the planet.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>>>
>>> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they can
>>> be defeated, Arlen?
>>
>> You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are BIOMETRIC
>> locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which they would be).
>
> Do they even make biometric locks for an average homeowner's front door?

Apple would.

On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
> On 5/10/2024 1:24 PM, Jan K. wrote:
>
>>>>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe,
>>>>> because the truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited
>>>>> smartphone on the planet.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>>>>
>>>> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they
>>>> can be defeated, Arlen?
>>>
>>> You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are
>>> BIOMETRIC locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which
>>> they would be).
>>
>> Do they even make biometric locks for an average homeowner's front
>> door?
>
> Apple would.

Apple doesn't.

Smart door lock manufacturers do, and unlike iPhones with Touch ID, they
are often easily compromised.

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On 2024-05-10 10:16, Bill Powell wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:28:59 -0700, Alan wrote:
>
>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 8 May 2024 16:22:42 GMT :
>>>
>>>> In reality, this isn't something most people
>>>> who use Face ID worry about happening.
>>>
>>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe, because the
>>> truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited smartphone on the
>>> planet.
>>>
>>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>>
>> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they
>> can be defeated, Arlen?
>
> You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are BIOMETRIC
> locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which they would be).

I understood just fine.

You misunderstand what an "analogy" is.

Arlen has just brought three more of his sock puppets into this thread,
within the last two hours.

Previous Arlen sock-puppets in this thread (with UTC time of first
posting to this thread).

1. 2024.05.05 18:47 (UTC) Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX ﹫ ptd.net>
2. 2024.05.05 19:42 (UTC) Oliver <ollie ﹫ invalid.net>
3. 2024.05.06 08:16 (UTC) Andrew <andrew ﹫ spam.net>

More Arlen sock-puppets within the last two hours.

4. 2024.05.10 17:16 (UTC) Bill Powell <bill ﹫ anarchists.org>
5. 2024.05.10 17:24 (UTC) Jan K. <janicekoziol ﹫ nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com>
6. 2024.05.10 17:51 (UTC) Larry Wolff <larrywolff ﹫ larrywolff.net>

And, Arlen is also now talking to himself (with his sock puppets).

On 2024-05-10 19:24, Jan K. wrote:
> W Fri, 10 May 2024 19:16:48 +0200, Bill Powell napisal:
>
>>>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe, because the
>>>> truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited smartphone on the
>>>> planet.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>>>
>>> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they
>>> can be defeated, Arlen?
>>
>> You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are BIOMETRIC
>> locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which they would be).
>
> Do they even make biometric locks for an average homeowner's front door?

Maybe.

I know that Securitas Direct is airing commercials about an electronic
lock controlled with the phone, possibly with their app. The phone can
be open with "biometrics", so the lock responds to biometrics, in a
manner of speaking...

:-)

I haven't looked in detail at their offering, anyway.

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On 2024-05-10 10:16, Bill Powell wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 17:28:59 -0700, Alan wrote:
>
>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 8 May 2024 16:22:42 GMT :
>>>
>>>> In reality, this isn't something most people
>>>> who use Face ID worry about happening.
>>>
>>> These marketing gimmicks make iPhone uses only *feel* safe, because the
>>> truth is the iPhone is by far the most exploited smartphone on the
>>> planet.
>>>
>>> https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>>
>> Are locks on your front door just "marketing gimmicks" because they
>> can be defeated, Arlen?
>
> You misunderstood. If you understood, you would have asked "Are BIOMETRIC
> locks on your front door just marketing gimmicks?" (which they would be).

What you don't understand is the differences between the use cases.

A normal lock on a front door is sufficiently convenient for almost
everyone...

....because you're not expecting to unlock the door every few minutes.

Smartphones are different.

You pick up your smartphone and you want to start using it from a locked
state, what... ...30, 50... ...maybe as many as 100 times a day.

So a phone that unlocks with your finger print or face is suddenly much
more convenient that one that requires you to enter a passcode.

Smartphones have information on them that you don't want stolen, and
they, and despite what that idiot, Arlen, claims, theft or loss of a
phone doesn't just happen to people in slums.

On 2024-05-10, Peter Piper <peterpiper@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Arlen has just brought three more of his sock puppets into this thread,
> within the last two hours.
>
> Previous Arlen sock-puppets in this thread (with UTC time of first
> posting to this thread).
>
> 1. 2024.05.05 18:47 (UTC) Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX ﹫ ptd.net>
> 2. 2024.05.05 19:42 (UTC) Oliver <ollie ﹫ invalid.net>
> 3. 2024.05.06 08:16 (UTC) Andrew <andrew ﹫ spam.net>
>
> More Arlen sock-puppets within the last two hours.
>
> 4. 2024.05.10 17:16 (UTC) Bill Powell <bill ﹫ anarchists.org>
> 5. 2024.05.10 17:24 (UTC) Jan K. <janicekoziol ﹫ nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com>
> 6. 2024.05.10 17:51 (UTC) Larry Wolff <larrywolff ﹫ larrywolff.net>
>
> And, Arlen is also now talking to himself (with his sock puppets).

But guys, seriously, he isn't trolling or anything. He does this for
"privacy", like all rational adults do (while slinging insults at anyone
who dares to disagree with his trolls or call them out. 😉 😉 😉

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Jolly Roger wrote on 8 May 2024 02:08:45 GMT :

> More like a bad allegory. Nobody here has claimed Face ID is the most
> secure thing on the planet.

It's even worse when you learn iOS is the most exploited phone OS in
history. https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

*No phone has ever had more zero-day holes than the iPhone.*

Which is why the phrase "To own an iPhone is to already be hacked" is true.

On 2024-05-10 14:34, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 8 May 2024 02:08:45 GMT :
>
>> More like a bad allegory. Nobody here has claimed Face ID is the most
>> secure thing on the planet.
>
> It's even worse when you learn iOS is the most exploited phone OS in
> history. https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
>
> *No phone has ever had more zero-day holes than the iPhone.*
>
> Which is why the phrase "To own an iPhone is to already be hacked" is true.

LOL!

You are a zealot, Arlen!

On 2024-05-10, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 8 May 2024 02:08:45 GMT :
>
>> More like a bad allegory. Nobody here has claimed Face ID is the most
>> secure thing on the planet.
>
> It's even worse when you learn iOS is the blah blah blah

You're a broken record. Literally useless.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 22:21:27 GMT :

> You're a broken record. Literally useless.

And yet, it's a fact the iPhone is the most exploited phone in history.
https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

No phone has more zero-day holes than the iPhone, Jolly Roger.

Since you get all your information about Apple only from Apple
advertisements, you're not aware of any of the facts about Apple.

All you know about is Apple's (brilliant) biometric marketing gimmicks.

Apple's advertisements make its gullible users *feel safe*, as Apple will
never tell you in its ads that to own an iPhone is to already be hacked.

Especially given Apple is the only common consumer operating system vendor
who only supports a single release at any one time. Yes, ONE RELEASE ONLY!

https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

You won't find the fact Apple's support is the most limited in the industry
in any of Apple's (rather brilliant) advertisements, now will you?

All you'll find in Apple advertisements are Apple's fantastic new emoji!

On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 22:21:27 GMT :
>
>> You're a broken record. Literally useless.
>
> And yet, [more broken record bullshit]

It's literally all little Arlen has at his disposal. His trolls are
*that* weak and feeble. Sad.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 04:38:22 GMT :

> His trolls are *that* weak and feeble.

Notice that the Apple religious zealots call all facts about Apple to be
trolls. Why is that? They don't say that on the adult OS newsgroups.

Only on Apple newsgroup is the fact that the iPhone is the most exploited
smartphone on the planet called a troll (which Apple never tells them).
https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

Only on an Apple operating system is the fact Apple has the most limited
operating system support in the industry called a troll (which Apple was
recently forced by the security industry to publicly disclose).
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/deployment/depc4c80847a/web

If you told a fact on the adult operating systems newsgroups (even a fact
that puts the OS maker in a bad light) nobody calls it a troll.

But if you tell a fact on the childish Apple newsgroups, they do.
Why do you think that is the case?
--
HINT: Apple religious zealots will defend Apple to the death, no matter
what and yet, they're herd animals who don't know anything about iOS>

On 11.05.24 06:38, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 22:21:27 GMT :
>>
>>> You're a broken record. Literally useless.
>>
>> And yet, [more broken record bullshit]
>
> It's literally all little Arlen has at his disposal. His trolls are
> *that* weak and feeble. Sad.

*You* are the Troll, little Roger. Why are still feeding this brain dead
idiot Arlen after so many years? Are you bored?

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On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 04:38:22 GMT :
>
>> His trolls are *that* weak and feeble.
>
> Notice that the Apple religious zealots

Notice that little Arlen calls anyone who dares to stand up to his
bullshit "Apple religious zealots" - all while little Arlen exhibits
true zealotry against anything Apple related.

> Why do you think that is the case?

Because little Arlen is in fact a zealot.

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On 2024-05-11, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 11.05.24 06:38, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 22:21:27 GMT :
>>>
>>>> You're a broken record. Literally useless.
>>>
>>> And yet, [more broken record bullshit]
>>
>> It's literally all little Arlen has at his disposal. His trolls are
>> *that* weak and feeble. Sad.
>
> *You* are the Troll, little Roger.

"Standing up to bullies makes *you* the bully!", exclaimed Jörg...

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Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 15:51:55 GMT :

> "Apple religious zealots"

The facts are what you Apple religious zealot nutcases refuse to believe.
https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

*The iPhone has the worst full OS support in history*

What you religious herd animal nutjobs hate, JR, are the facts.
https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

*The iPhone is the most exploited phone in history*

On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 15:51:55 GMT :
>
>> "Apple religious zealots"
>
> The facts [more repitious deflection and trolling]

YAWN

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Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:39:21 GMT :

> YAWN

Notice you can't refute the facts nor that you lied for years about them.

*The iPhone has the worst full OS support in the history of phones*
*As a result, the iPhone is the most exploited phone in history*

It's no longer shocking Apple religious zealots know nothing about iOS.

On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:39:21 GMT :
>
>> YAWN
>
> Notice

Notice Arlen deflects constantly and has nothing but trolls to offer.

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