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Subject: FBI Warns {broken} iPhone And Android Users - Stop Sending Texts
From: hedrick
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Subject: FBI Warns {broken} iPhone And Android Users - Stop Sending Texts
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Timing is everything. Just as Apple’s adoption of RCS had seemed to
signal a return to text messaging versus the unstoppable growth of
WhatsApp, then along comes a surprising new hurdle to stop that in its
tracks. While messaging Android to Android or iPhone to iPhone is
secure, messaging from one to the other is not.

Now even the FBI and CISA, the US cyber defense agency, are warning
Americans to use fully encrypted messaging and phone calls where they
can. The backdrop is the Chinese hacking of US networks that is
reportedly “ongoing and likely larger in scale than previously
understood.” Fully encrypted comms is the best defense against this
compromise, and Americans are being urged to use that wherever possible.

The network cyberattacks, attributed to Salt Typhoon, a group associated
with China’s Ministry of Public Security, has generated heightened
concern as to the vulnerabilities within critical US communication
networks. The reality is different. Without fully end-to-end encrypted
messaging and calls, there has always been a potential for content to be
intercepted. That’s the entire reason the likes of Apple, Google and
Meta advise its use, highlighting the fact that even they can’t see content.

As reported by Politico, advice given by CISA’s Jeff Greene and an
unnamed FBI senior official included “strongly urging Americans to ‘use
your encrypted communications where you have it… we definitely need to
do that, kind of look at what it means long-term, how we secure our
networks’.”

NBC News
@NBCNews
Amid an unprecedented cyberattack on telecommunications companies such
as AT&T and Verizon, U.S. officials are recommending that Americans use
encrypted messaging apps to ensure their communications stay hidden from
foreign hackers.

https://x.com/NBCNews/status/1864055798302683219

The two officials briefing the media went as far as to suggest “that
Americans should use encrypted apps for all their communications,”
according to other reports (1,2). That means stop sending texts between
iPhones and Androids, albeit iMessages and Google Messages are fully
encrypted between users on those platforms.

Greene added that “our suggestion, what we have told folks internally,
is not new here: encryption is your friend, whether it's on text
messaging or if you have the capacity to use encrypted voice
communication. Even if the adversary is able to intercept the data, if
it is encrypted, it will make it impossible.”

An alert into the ongoing telco network hacks jointly issued by FBI,
CISA and NSA—as well as other Five Eyes agencies—was released on Tuesday.

The lack of end-to-end encryption to protect cross-platform RCS, the
successor to SMS, is a glaring omission. It was highlighted in Samsung’s
recent celebratory PR release on the success of RCS, which included the
caveat that only Android to Android messaging is secured. It remains a
stark irony that while Google and Apple separately advise Android and
iPhone users to rely on end-to-end encryption, when it comes to RCS it’s
still missing, with no timeline in sight for a fix.

The mobile standard setter, GSMA, and Google have said encryption will
be coming to RCS, but there’s no firm date yet. That assurance seemed a
response to the backlash post Apple’s update with the media pickup on
the security issue. Apple—whose iPhone ecosystem includes ever more
fully encryption, has not commented.

My advice remains to use WhatsApp over RCS for cross-platform messaging
until such a time as RCS adds full encryption between iPhones and
Androids. Once you step outside Apple’s or Google’s walled garden, the
security protections fall away. With good secured platforms available,
it’s not worth taking the risk.

There are other fully encrypted platforms as well—notably Signal, the
best of the bunch, albeit with a much smaller install base. Even
Facebook Messenger now fully encrypts messaging, making standard SMS/RCS
texting even more an outlier. Signal and WhatsApp also enable fully
encrypted voice and video calls cross platform, and so they should also
be your default choices given this FBI/CISA warning.

Ironically, Apple’s iOS 18.2, due this month, will enable iPhone users
to change the default messenger on their devices from iMessage. Timing
really is everything.

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Zak Doffman

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Sara T
2 hours ago

Welp unless they want to drop 1k or more for me a new phone that's apple
or my friend that apple to get an android. I'm still going to have to
because we're working with older phones and they're paid off. We don't
have thousands of dollars to buy a replacement that really isn't needed
since ours work just fine.

We're barely scraping by as it is and that is living with our parents to
help out.

Spiro M
6 hours ago

Oh save us FIB from the boogyman!

Americans are frightened and we need the FIB to protect us!

Raid Americans houses at 4:00 am and go through our underwear draws!

J. Edgar Hoover would be proud of that!

Robert A
6 hours ago

The service was created by WhatsApp Inc. of Mountain View, California,
which was acquired by Facebook in February 2014 for approximately
US$19.3 billion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/12/03/fbi-warns-iphone-and-android-users-stop-sending-texts/

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 00:16:06 -0800, hedrick <sky-is-falling@sqwak.com> wrote:
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>There are other fully encrypted platforms as well

nothing in the universe is "fully encrypted" (only storefront agents,
troll farm operatives, snitches, etc. would ever make such ludicrous
claims), but some users may have realistic concerns about preventing
unauthorized access to content, regardless of its format or function

as a minimum standard, experts recommended "whole message encryption"
for communication... see https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutorwme.htm

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