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* Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
+* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|`* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
| `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|  +* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andy Burns
|  |+* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Frank Slootweg
|  ||`- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|  |`- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|  `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|   `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|    +- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|    `- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Bob Martin
+* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
|`* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
| +* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
| |`* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
| | `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
| |  `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
| |   `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
| |    `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
| |     +- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
| |     `- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
| `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|  +* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
|  |`- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|  `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|   `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|    +- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|    `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
|     `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|      `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|       +* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
|       |`* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|       | `- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
|       `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
|        `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
|         `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
|          `- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Frank Slootweg
+- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?D
`* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Arno Welzel
 `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
  `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Arno Welzel
   +* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Frank Slootweg
   |`* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
   | `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Carlos E.R.
   |  `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
   |   `- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
   `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
    `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH
     `* Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?Andrew
      `- Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?VanguardLH

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Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 13:39 UTC
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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On 2024-12-03 02:40, Andrew wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 21:24:25 +0100 :
>
>> You asked "Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?",
>> not why people do not use the best app search engine.
>
> Thanks for honestly answering the question as you saw it being asked.
>
> If you look at the OP, you'll see, verbatim, I asked:
> Why don't people use a far better search engine that actually finds apps?

Not in the subject line.

> What you are answering is only that which is in the subject line summary.
>
> I'm actually asking a few (related) important questions, in this thread.
> a. Why settle for the piss-poor Google Play Store app search engine?
> b. Why not use a fantastic free search engine with GREAT filters?
> c. Does that fantastic search engine ask you for money when you install it?

As I said before, my preferred search engine, after automated search, is
human answers from people that actually have used such an app.

....

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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On 2024-12-03 04:02, VanguardLH wrote:
> Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> You think I'm getting a cut of $ or something simply because you don't
>> understand that kind-hearted intelligent people try to inform others.
>
> Nope. I think you got involved in its development which made you
> enthusiastic about it. As I said, you have a vested interest.
>
>> I don't plan on being ignorant, so when I search, I use the best engine.
>
> Inferring others are idiots that ask you questions or disagree with you
> will not engender the audience you want.

In fact, it puts people against the app.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Arno Welzel
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 15:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Andrew, 2024-12-03 03:06:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:54:35 +0100 :
>
>>> Why do people use just about the dumbest possible search engine instead?
>>
>> Because they don't know better.
>
> Yes. You're the only one who knows the answer to that question, which is
> what I'm actually trying to "fix" in my kind-hearted way on this newsgroup.
> <https://skyica.com/appfinder/features/>

Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Frank Slootweg
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Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> Andrew, 2024-12-03 03:06:
>
> > Arno Welzel wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:54:35 +0100 :
> >
> >>> Why do people use just about the dumbest possible search engine instead?
> >>
> >> Because they don't know better.
> >
> > Yes. You're the only one who knows the answer to that question, which is
> > what I'm actually trying to "fix" in my kind-hearted way on this newsgroup.
> > <https://skyica.com/appfinder/features/>
>
> Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.

Well, the free one is. And as to the paid one: What's $40 between
'friends'!? :-)

<https://skyica.com/appfinder/comparison/>

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
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From: andys@nospam.com (Andrew)
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Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Carlos E.R. wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:39:49 +0100 :

>> If you look at the OP, you'll see, verbatim, I asked:
>> Why don't people use a far better search engine that actually finds apps?
>
> Not in the subject line.

Agreed. I used to have long subject lines, but nice people like Andy
complained (rightfully so) so I shortened them.

Suffice to say there were three questions in the opening post, only one of
which was summarized on the subject line, which itself was intended to
figure out why people use a Cessna to do what an F35 is needed to do right.

>
>> What you are answering is only that which is in the subject line summary.
>>
>> I'm actually asking a few (related) important questions, in this thread.
>> a. Why settle for the piss-poor Google Play Store app search engine?
>> b. Why not use a fantastic free search engine with GREAT filters?
>> c. Does that fantastic search engine ask you for money when you install it?
>
> As I said before, my preferred search engine, after automated search, is
> human answers from people that actually have used such an app.

Understood. I do the same. But I run a search first. And I test first.
THEN I ask questions of the humans.

Which is EXACTLY what I did here as I've tested this app for more than a
year BEFORE asking the three questions I asked in this thread.

1. Why use a substandard app that is barely functional in its results?
2. Why are people like you and Vanguard so deathly afraid of technology?
3. Does the best search app on the planet ask you for money or not?

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Andrew
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Carlos E.R. wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:41:40 +0100 :

>> Inferring others are idiots that ask you questions or disagree with you
>> will not engender the audience you want.
>
> In fact, it puts people against the app.

You give me too much credit for holding sway over what your actions are.

The reasons provided, to date, for NOT testing the app are that people like
you and Vanguard are so afraid of technology that you came up with absurd
(wrong) guesses as to what something as simple as a search engine does.

With people like you and Vanguard so deathly afraid of even the simplest of
technology, I don't thing there is *anything* I could possibly do to change
the abject fear you both expressed in something as simple as an APK.

You give me too much credit given your quivering fear of tech is palpable.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Andrew
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From: andys@nospam.com (Andrew)
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Arno Welzel wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 16:40:39 +0100 :

>> Arno Welzel wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:54:35 +0100 :
>>
>>>> Why do people use just about the dumbest possible search engine instead?
>>>
>>> Because they don't know better.
>>
>> Yes. You're the only one who knows the answer to that question, which is
>> what I'm actually trying to "fix" in my kind-hearted way on this newsgroup.
>> <https://skyica.com/appfinder/features/>
>
> Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.

That's an odd thought process... very strange... almost incomprehensible...

It's kind of like saying the Google Play Store OSMAnd app costs money so
you won't install the free F-Droid OSMAnd app - which is the same app.

The thought process of people who say such things boggles my mind...

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Frank Slootweg wrote on 3 Dec 2024 16:40:22 GMT :

>> Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.
>
> Well, the free one is.

In hindsight, it seems only Frank understood a single thing about this app,
where what I learned is that most people are so afraid of a non-Google app
that they (almost literally) leave puddles of piss on the floor in their
quivering fear.

I'm saying that in a very glaringly low-level but extremely obvious way
that the fear that people like Carlos and Vanguard feel about apps not from
Google is so strong that they actually give me credit for convincing them
the app is too dangerous for them.

I find that interesting.

They piss in their pants just hearing about apps not from Google.
And then they blame me for them pissing in their pants out of fear.

WTF?

They're afraid. But they can't admit that they're afraid.
They leave puddles of piss on the floor - which shows clearly they're
afraid.

But they can't admit it.

So Vanguard came up with a whole plethora of insane excuses for what he
just should have said scares him so much that he peed in his pants at the
mere mention of loading a non-Google app to search for Google apps.

Likewise with Carlos - who - get this - blamed ME! for his puddles of piss
on the floor - when it's really that Carlos is as quiveringly scared as
Vanguard was.

Who is that afraid of an app that they piss all over themselves at the mere
mention of loading an app that isn't from Google to search Google's repo?

I learned a lot about the people on this newsgroup.
Mostly that they're afraid of everything.

It's time for them to clean up their piss on the floor and move to the next
thread as it's disgusting to me how fearful these people are of a simple
app.

They blame me for their fears.
They blame me because they pissed in their pants.

At the mere mention of an app that isn't from Google to search for apps
that are from Google.

That's actually kind of funny when you think about that is what happened.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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On 2024-12-04 05:38, Andrew wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:39:49 +0100 :
>
>>> If you look at the OP, you'll see, verbatim, I asked:
>>> Why don't people use a far better search engine that actually finds
>>> apps?
>>
>> Not in the subject line.
>
> Agreed. I used to have long subject lines, but nice people like Andy
> complained (rightfully so) so I shortened them.
> Suffice to say there were three questions in the opening post, only one of
> which was summarized on the subject line, which itself was intended to
> figure out why people use a Cessna to do what an F35 is needed to do right.
>
>>
>>> What you are answering is only that which is in the subject line
>>> summary.
>>>
>>> I'm actually asking a few (related) important questions, in this
>>> thread. a. Why settle for the piss-poor Google Play Store app search
>>> engine?
>>> b. Why not use a fantastic free search engine with GREAT filters?
>>> c. Does that fantastic search engine ask you for money when you
>>> install it?
>>
>> As I said before, my preferred search engine, after automated search,
>> is human answers from people that actually have used such an app.
>
> Understood. I do the same. But I run a search first. And I test first.
> THEN I ask questions of the humans.
>
> Which is EXACTLY what I did here as I've tested this app for more than a
> year BEFORE asking the three questions I asked in this thread.
>
> 1. Why use a substandard app that is barely functional in its results?

I had no idea of the existence of another tool to search for apps, plain
simple.

> 2. Why are people like you and Vanguard so deathly afraid of technology?

What on earth are you talking about?

> 3. Does the best search app on the planet ask you for money or not?

Arlen, that you are so intense in praising that tool, trying to convince
us, and even insulting us if we are not convinced, is enough to put me
away from trying the tool.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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On 2024-12-04 06:01, Andrew wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 3 Dec 2024 16:40:22 GMT :
>
>>> Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.
>>
>>   Well, the free one is.
>
> In hindsight, it seems only Frank understood a single thing about this app,
> where what I learned is that most people are so afraid of a non-Google app
> that they (almost literally) leave puddles of piss on the floor in their
> quivering fear.
>
> I'm saying that in a very glaringly low-level but extremely obvious way
> that the fear that people like Carlos and Vanguard feel about apps not from
> Google is so strong that they actually give me credit for convincing them
> the app is too dangerous for them.
>
> I find that interesting.
>
> They piss in their pants just hearing about apps not from Google.
> And then they blame me for them pissing in their pants out of fear.
>
> WTF?
>
> They're afraid. But they can't admit that they're afraid. They leave
> puddles of piss on the floor - which shows clearly they're
> afraid.

Arlen, that you are so intense in praising that tool, trying to convince
us, and even insulting us if we are not convinced, is enough to put me
away from trying the tool.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:

> Carlos E.R. wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:41:40 +0100 :
>
>>> Inferring others are idiots that ask you questions or disagree with you
>>> will not engender the audience you want.
>>
>> In fact, it puts people against the app.
>
> You give me too much credit for holding sway over what your actions are.
>
> The reasons provided, to date, for NOT testing the app are that people like
> you and Vanguard are so afraid of technology that you came up with absurd
> (wrong) guesses as to what something as simple as a search engine does.

And there you go insulting your readers again. I'm not bothering to
recite my resume in the software and hardware QA field for 30 years to
some asshole that is intent on belittling everyone that disagrees with
them. You have the personality of Alan Conner with a bit more polish.

I'm sure the Skyica would appreciate you stop prosyletizing their
product considering your actual intent here.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> On 2024-12-04 06:01, Andrew wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg wrote on 3 Dec 2024 16:40:22 GMT :
>>
>>>> Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.
>>>
>>>   Well, the free one is.
>>
>> In hindsight, it seems only Frank understood a single thing about this app,
>> where what I learned is that most people are so afraid of a non-Google app
>> that they (almost literally) leave puddles of piss on the floor in their
>> quivering fear.
>>
>> I'm saying that in a very glaringly low-level but extremely obvious way
>> that the fear that people like Carlos and Vanguard feel about apps not from
>> Google is so strong that they actually give me credit for convincing them
>> the app is too dangerous for them.
>>
>> I find that interesting.
>>
>> They piss in their pants just hearing about apps not from Google.
>> And then they blame me for them pissing in their pants out of fear.
>>
>> WTF?
>>
>> They're afraid. But they can't admit that they're afraid. They leave
>> puddles of piss on the floor - which shows clearly they're
>> afraid.
>
> Arlen, that you are so intense in praising that tool, trying to convince
> us, and even insulting us if we are not convinced, is enough to put me
> away from trying the tool.

He can't help himself. Like Alan Conner, if you agreee with him then
you are a saint, but if you don't agree with him then you are the spawn
of Satan, and must be stupid and fearful spawn because you don't agree.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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On 2024-12-04 20:02, VanguardLH wrote:
> Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Carlos E.R. wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:41:40 +0100 :
>>
>>>> Inferring others are idiots that ask you questions or disagree with you
>>>> will not engender the audience you want.
>>>
>>> In fact, it puts people against the app.
>>
>> You give me too much credit for holding sway over what your actions are.
>>
>> The reasons provided, to date, for NOT testing the app are that people like
>> you and Vanguard are so afraid of technology that you came up with absurd
>> (wrong) guesses as to what something as simple as a search engine does.
>
> And there you go insulting your readers again. I'm not bothering to
> recite my resume in the software and hardware QA field for 30 years to
> some asshole that is intent on belittling everyone that disagrees with
> them. You have the personality of Alan Conner with a bit more polish.
>
> I'm sure the Skyica would appreciate you stop prosyletizing their
> product considering your actual intent here.

+1

You found much better words than me.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 16:40:39 +0100 :
>
>>> Arno Welzel wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:54:35 +0100 :
>>>
>>>>> Why do people use just about the dumbest possible search engine instead?
>>>>
>>>> Because they don't know better.
>>>
>>> Yes. You're the only one who knows the answer to that question, which is
>>> what I'm actually trying to "fix" in my kind-hearted way on this newsgroup.
>>> <https://skyica.com/appfinder/features/>
>>
>> Do you get paid for this? This app is not for free.
>
> That's an odd thought process... very strange... almost incomprehensible...
>
> It's kind of like saying the Google Play Store OSMAnd app costs money so
> you won't install the free F-Droid OSMAnd app - which is the same app.
>
> The thought process of people who say such things boggles my mind...

And there you go misleading again.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand

Yep, free. However, this one is payware:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus

However, you said OSMand, not OSMand+. Yet Fdroid you claim offers the
free (non-plus) version is instead proliferating the plus paid version
that you tout as free. In a search on "osmand" at Fdroid, the only
match in their search was:

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/

That looks to be the OSMand+ version, but they substituted ~ for + in
the product name yet "plus" is in the URL path.

Read carefully that Fdroid app page which notes:
Anti-Features (i.e., features you do NOT want for freeware)
- This app contains non-free assets
- This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service

Yes, Fdroid carries the app, but also notes it is NOT a free app. Nope,
I don't need to install it to check free versus paid. I trust Fdroid
more than you. You said OSMand (no plus sign). You also said it's at
Fdroid. That's OSMand+. Sorry, I cannot address why Fdroid doesn't
carry OSMand non-plus (free) since their About page claims "F-Droid is
an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software)
applications for the Android platform." Seems contradictory that Fdroid
carries OSMand+ instead of OSMand, but you claimed the one at Fdroid was
free. Free download does not mandate free software. Tis disappointing
Fdroid is pushing payware, and then caveats the app with anti-features.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OsmAnd
"It is available in both free and paid versions; the latter unlocks the
download limit for offline maps and provides access to Wikipedia points
of interest (POIs) and their descriptions from within the app."

There is a download limit for offline maps in Google Maps? Or in the
Here [WeGo] app? Gee, I never got charged for all those offline maps I
stored on my SD card using those map apps. The comment about lack of
POIs (Points of Interest) is one of the reasons my trial of OSMand (free
non-plus) ceased. That along with them using county plats that did not
match reality since those show road proposed changes or additions that
have not yet occurred. Plus crowdsourcing a database doesn't guarantee
accuracy. Hmm, and I didn't have to pay for Google Maps or Here [WeGo],
either. OpenStreetMaps (OSM), and the OSMand that accesses the OSM map
database are valiant efforts indeed, but lost in my evaluation of it,
and of alternatives all of which were free, and all of which were
available at play.google.com.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 12:57:26 +0100 :

> I had no idea of the existence of another tool to search for apps, plain
> simple.
> that you are so intense in praising that tool, trying to convince
> us, and even insulting us if we are not convinced, is enough to put me
> away from trying the tool.

When you blame me for your abnormal fears of an APK, all I can do is softly
chuckle to myself that it's obvious you are afraid of a simple APK install.

You're blaming me because you are afraid.

You hate yourself - because you're afraid of an APK.
So you blame me instead.

Rest assured...

Just like it's fine that some people are deathly afraid of spiders, it's
perfectly fine for you (and Vanguard) to be deathly afraid of app APKs.

Particularly apps that replace Google functionality you're afraid of.
And that's OK.

Most people who know nothing about Android are afraid like you are.

Fearmongers are afraid to use any app that replaces Google functionality.
1. The FairEmail app replaces the GMail app functionality
2. The NewPipe app replaces the YouTube app functionality
3. The Bromite app replaces the Chrome app functionality
4. The PulseSMS app replaces the Google messenger app functionality
5. The AuroraStore app replaces the Google Play Store app functionality
6. The Skyica App Finder replaces Google Play Store app functionality
etc.

I realize just the mere mention of those apps, makes your heart palpate.
The fear you feel from hearing those names - is palpable in what you write.

You're AFRAID of an app.
On an Android newsgroup.

It's only my personal opinion that this newsgroup, an android newsgroup, is
supposed to be populated by people who are NOT afraid of an app.

But it's fine for YOU (and Vanguard) to be deathly afraid of every app.
I don't care that you quake in fear at the mere mention of an app APK.

What's NOT fine is for you (and Vanguard) to blame ME for your fears.
Keep your anxiety and trembling due to dread of apps to yourself.

Please do not blame me because you are afraid of every app there is.
I can't fix this abnormal panic you feel from every frightening app.

I'm the wrong guy to help you overcome the terror an APK instills in you.

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VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:02:10 -0600 :

> And there you go insulting your readers again. I'm not bothering to
> recite my resume in the software and hardware QA field for 30 years to
> some asshole that is intent on belittling everyone that disagrees with
> them. You have the personality of Alan Conner with a bit more polish.
>
> I'm sure the Skyica would appreciate you stop prosyletizing their
> product considering your actual intent here.

Look. It's clear you're AFRAID.
Every word you write here is about your own personal abnormal fears.

And that's OK.

It doesn't matter that you're so afraid of installing an APK that you spend
hours fabricating absurd excuses for why you can't install the app APK.

It's abundantly clear why you won't install the APK.
It's the same reason you won't install the Aurora APK.

You won't install the APK because you're AFRAID of it.
And that's OK.

You spent hours fabricating absurdly ridiculous excuses for why you
couldn't install the Aurora APK also, Vanguard. You think I forget?

Face it.
You're *A-F-R-A-I-D*.

And that's OK.

But don't blame me for your insanely abnormal personal fears of an APK.

It's not my problem that you're so afraid of an APK that you have to
fabricate all sorts of ridiculous objections to installing that app.

It's your problem.
You're AFRAID of something as simple as installing an app.

And that's OK.

What's NOT ok is for you to blame me for your abject fears.

It's not my fault you're afraid of any APK that replaces Google
functionality. It's your problem. Not mine. Deal with it.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:13:49 +0100 :

> You found much better words than me.

Both of you are afraid of all new app functionality.
Both of you do this all the time.

You hate yourself for being afraid of the app functionality.
So you blame the messenger.

Stop it.
Face your own fears.

Don't blame me because YOU are afraid of an app.
It's unbecoming of a man.

Children do that.
Not men.

Face your own fears.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:05:05 -0600 :

> He can't help himself. Like Alan Conner, if you agreee with him then
> you are a saint, but if you don't agree with him then you are the spawn
> of Satan, and must be stupid and fearful spawn because you don't agree.

What you do not understand is I agree with ANYONE who makes a valid point.
And I disagree with ANYONE who fabricates inane excuses for their fears.

You spent hours fabricating absurdly ridiculous excuses for why you
couldn't install the Aurora APK also, Vanguard. You think I forget?

Face it.
You're *A-F-R-A-I-D*.

And that's OK.
But don't blame me for your insanely abnormal personal fears of an APK.

Stop blaming me for your own personal problems, Vanguard.
Be a man.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:41:55 -0600 :

> However, you said OSMand, not OSMand+. Yet Fdroid you claim offers the
> free (non-plus) version is instead proliferating the plus paid version
> that you tout as free. In a search on "osmand" at Fdroid, the only
> match in their search was:
>
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/
>
> That looks to be the OSMand+ version, but they substituted ~ for + in
> the product name yet "plus" is in the URL path.

Why are you repeating this? Everyone knows this. It's been discussed
something like a thousand times on this newsgroup Vanguard.
OSMAnd+ is what is on the Google Play Store repo
OSMAnd~ is what is on the F-Droid repo

Everyone knows that. I don't need to re-state it. Everyone knows it.
>
> Read carefully that Fdroid app page which notes:
> Anti-Features (i.e., features you do NOT want for freeware)
> - This app contains non-free assets
> - This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service
>
> Yes, Fdroid carries the app, but also notes it is NOT a free app. Nope,
> I don't need to install it to check free versus paid. I trust Fdroid
> more than you. You said OSMand (no plus sign). You also said it's at
> Fdroid. That's OSMand+. Sorry, I cannot address why Fdroid doesn't
> carry OSMand non-plus (free) since their About page claims "F-Droid is
> an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software)
> applications for the Android platform." Seems contradictory that Fdroid
> carries OSMand+ instead of OSMand, but you claimed the one at Fdroid was
> free. Free download does not mandate free software. Tis disappointing
> Fdroid is pushing payware, and then caveats the app with anti-features.

Every word you (and Carlos) write is about your abject fears of APKs.
And that's fine.

You're welcome to spend hours fabricating reasons for why you fear an APK.
Just don't blame me for your abject fears of something as simple as an APK.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OsmAnd
> "It is available in both free and paid versions; the latter unlocks the
> download limit for offline maps and provides access to Wikipedia points
> of interest (POIs) and their descriptions from within the app."
>
> There is a download limit for offline maps in Google Maps? Or in the
> Here [WeGo] app? Gee, I never got charged for all those offline maps I
> stored on my SD card using those map apps. The comment about lack of
> POIs (Points of Interest) is one of the reasons my trial of OSMand (free
> non-plus) ceased. That along with them using county plats that did not
> match reality since those show road proposed changes or additions that
> have not yet occurred. Plus crowdsourcing a database doesn't guarantee
> accuracy. Hmm, and I didn't have to pay for Google Maps or Here [WeGo],
> either. OpenStreetMaps (OSM), and the OSMand that accesses the OSM map
> database are valiant efforts indeed, but lost in my evaluation of it,
> and of alternatives all of which were free, and all of which were
> available at play.google.com.

You spend hours justifying your abject fears of something as simple as an
app, which is clear by your fabrications of why you can't install that app.

Instead of spending hours justifying your fears of an app, why don't you
just download the app, test it out, and let us know how it works for you?

That's what I do.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:02:10 -0600 :
>
>> And there you go insulting your readers again. I'm not bothering to
>> recite my resume in the software and hardware QA field for 30 years to
>> some asshole that is intent on belittling everyone that disagrees with
>> them. You have the personality of Alan Conner with a bit more polish.
>>
>> I'm sure the Skyica would appreciate you stop prosyletizing their
>> product considering your actual intent here.
>
> Look. It's clear you're AFRAID.
> Every word you write here is about your own personal abnormal fears.

That reasoning assuages your ego that your choice is better because,
gee, those that disagree just must be ignorant or afraid. Uh huh.

How old are you?

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:41:55 -0600 :
>
>> However, you said OSMand, not OSMand+. Yet Fdroid you claim offers the
>> free (non-plus) version is instead proliferating the plus paid version
>> that you tout as free. In a search on "osmand" at Fdroid, the only
>> match in their search was:
>>
>> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/
>>
>> That looks to be the OSMand+ version, but they substituted ~ for + in
>> the product name yet "plus" is in the URL path.
>
> Why are you repeating this? Everyone knows this. It's been discussed
> something like a thousand times on this newsgroup Vanguard.

Provide 100 MIDs for those claimed "thousands" of prior discussions.

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Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:

> Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 12:57:26 +0100 :
>
>> I had no idea of the existence of another tool to search for apps, plain
>> simple.
>> that you are so intense in praising that tool, trying to convince
>> us, and even insulting us if we are not convinced, is enough to put me
>> away from trying the tool.
>
> When you blame me for your abnormal fears of an APK, all I can do is softly
> chuckle to myself that it's obvious you are afraid of a simple APK install.
>
> You're blaming me because you are afraid.
>
> You hate yourself - because you're afraid of an APK.
> So you blame me instead.
>
> Rest assured...
>
> Just like it's fine that some people are deathly afraid of spiders, it's
> perfectly fine for you (and Vanguard) to be deathly afraid of app APKs.
>
> Particularly apps that replace Google functionality you're afraid of.
> And that's OK.
>
> Most people who know nothing about Android are afraid like you are.
>
> Fearmongers are afraid to use any app that replaces Google functionality.
> 1. The FairEmail app replaces the GMail app functionality
> 2. The NewPipe app replaces the YouTube app functionality
> 3. The Bromite app replaces the Chrome app functionality
> 4. The PulseSMS app replaces the Google messenger app functionality
> 5. The AuroraStore app replaces the Google Play Store app functionality
> 6. The Skyica App Finder replaces Google Play Store app functionality
> etc.
>
> I realize just the mere mention of those apps, makes your heart palpate.
> The fear you feel from hearing those names - is palpable in what you write.
>
> You're AFRAID of an app.
> On an Android newsgroup.
>
> It's only my personal opinion that this newsgroup, an android newsgroup, is
> supposed to be populated by people who are NOT afraid of an app.
>
> But it's fine for YOU (and Vanguard) to be deathly afraid of every app.
> I don't care that you quake in fear at the mere mention of an app APK.
>
> What's NOT fine is for you (and Vanguard) to blame ME for your fears.
> Keep your anxiety and trembling due to dread of apps to yourself.
>
> Please do not blame me because you are afraid of every app there is.
> I can't fix this abnormal panic you feel from every frightening app.
>
> I'm the wrong guy to help you overcome the terror an APK instills in you.

We have found our new Usenet God.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10 UTC
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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On 2024-12-05 07:39, Andrew wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:13:49 +0100 :
>
>> You found much better words than me.
>
> Both of you are afraid of all new app functionality.
> Both of you do this all the time.
>
> You hate yourself for being afraid of the app functionality.
> So you blame the messenger.

Ad hominem attack again. Ignoring your post till you learn manners.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:11 UTC
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
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On 2024-12-05 16:08, VanguardLH wrote:
> Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:02:10 -0600 :
>>
>>> And there you go insulting your readers again. I'm not bothering to
>>> recite my resume in the software and hardware QA field for 30 years to
>>> some asshole that is intent on belittling everyone that disagrees with
>>> them. You have the personality of Alan Conner with a bit more polish.
>>>
>>> I'm sure the Skyica would appreciate you stop prosyletizing their
>>> product considering your actual intent here.
>>
>> Look. It's clear you're AFRAID.
>> Every word you write here is about your own personal abnormal fears.
>
> That reasoning assuages your ego that your choice is better because,
> gee, those that disagree just must be ignorant or afraid. Uh huh.
>
> How old are you?

80, he said on another post somewhere.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: Why do people use the Google Play Store search engine?
From: Carlos E.R.
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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On 2024-12-05 07:30, Andrew wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 4 Dec 2024 12:57:26 +0100 :
>
>> I had no idea of the existence of another tool to search for apps,
>> plain simple.
>> that you are so intense in praising that tool, trying to convince us,
>> and even insulting us if we are not convinced, is enough to put me
>> away from trying the tool.
>
> When you blame me for your abnormal fears of an APK, all I can do is softly
> chuckle to myself that it's obvious you are afraid of a simple APK install.
>
> You're blaming me because you are afraid.
>
> You hate yourself - because you're afraid of an APK.
> So you blame me instead.

Ad hominem attack again. Ignoring your post till you learn manners.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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