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* Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie
+* Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndy Burns
|`* Re: Pink circle on Home screenVanguardLH
| `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndy Burns
|  +- Re: Pink circle on Home screenVanguardLH
|  +- Re: Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie
|  `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie
|   +* Re: Pink circle on Home screenVanguardLH
|   |+* Re: Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie
|   ||`- Re: Pink circle on Home screenVanguardLH
|   |`* Re: Pink circle on Home screenFrank Slootweg
|   | `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie
|   |  +* Re: Pink circle on Home screenFrank Slootweg
|   |  |`- Re: Pink circle on Home screenVanguardLH
|   |  `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndy Burns
|   |   +- Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndrew
|   |   `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenFrank Slootweg
|   |    `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndy Burns
|   |     `- Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndrew
|   +- Re: Pink circle on Home screenFrank Slootweg
|   `* Re: Pink circle on Home screenJeff Layman
|    `* Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)Jim the Geordie
|     `* Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)VanguardLH
|      `* Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)Andy Burns
|       +- Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)VanguardLH
|       `* Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)Jim the Geordie
|        `* Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)Andy Burns
|         `* Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)Jim the Geordie
|          `- Re: Pink circle on Home screen (Solved?)VanguardLH
+* Re: Pink circle on Home screenAndrew
|`- Re: Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie
`* Re: Pink circle on Home screenFrank Slootweg
 `- Re: Pink circle on Home screenJim the Geordie

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Subject: Pink circle on Home screen
From: Jim the Geordie
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From: jim@jimXscott.co.uk (Jim the Geordie)
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Subject: Pink circle on Home screen
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Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons. It
has what I would call a folder with a downward arrow. It will not move.
It also covers the Spacebar when I try to text.
Re-start clears it, but I would like to know what causes it.
Samsung Galaxy phone with Android v11
--
Jim the Geordie

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: Andy Burns
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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Jim the Geordie wrote:

> Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons.

Sounds like the magnifier option from accessibility features?

Maybe samsung have a shortcut that makes it (too) easy to launch?

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: VanguardLH
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> Jim the Geordie wrote:
>
>> Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons.
>
> Sounds like the magnifier option from accessibility features?
>
> Maybe samsung have a shortcut that makes it (too) easy to launch?

<Aside>
On my smartphone, long-pressing the Home button tries to being up Google
Assistant (but I have it disabled since it too often captured voice from
not me, others in the room, the TV, and not just when "Hey Google" was
said).

Something I tap (haven't figured out what) puts the screen into some
accessibility view that I don't like. Have to tap an "X" button to get
back to normal.
</Aside

The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download. My
guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
download icon. You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
killer app to kill them. Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.

My phone's Android is too old to have the draw-over aka on-top
permission so watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csdC_W-wt2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GraHbuLKSIU

My Android version is too old to see the option in Developer Options.
Not a surprise to me since Draw Over is not a permission when I look at
General -> Apps -> Permissions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsCXaiNXFE4

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: Andy Burns
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
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From: usenet@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
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Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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VanguardLH wrote:

> The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download. My
> guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
> download icon. You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
> killer app to kill them. Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.

The magnifier option shows as a ping looking glass with a plus symbol, I
think it can be dragged into position

<https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wEcA5zPQJmg2F7h8V6FN6f-1200-80.jpg>

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: VanguardLH
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download. My
>> guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
>> download icon. You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
>> killer app to kill them. Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.
>
> The magnifier option shows as a ping looking glass with a plus symbol, I
> think it can be dragged into position
>
> <https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wEcA5zPQJmg2F7h8V6FN6f-1200-80.jpg>

But that doesn't have the downward arrow that Geordie mentioned.

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: Jim the Geordie
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From: jim@jimXscott.co.uk (Jim the Geordie)
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Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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On 23/09/2024 07:34, Andy Burns wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download.  My
>> guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
>> download icon.  You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
>> killer app to kill them.  Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.
>
> The magnifier option shows as a ping looking glass with a plus symbol, I
> think it can be dragged into position
>
> <https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wEcA5zPQJmg2F7h8V6FN6f-1200-80.jpg>

No. Nothing like that.
It's a perfect circle (unlike the rounded-off square that are the other
icons).
It's pink. As I said it contains a black edged rectangle with a border
at its top. In the lower part of the rectangle is an arrow pointing down.
True, it suggests something to do with a download, but it sits over the
Navigation bar. No amount of touching or holding makes any difference
and while it is there, the screen is frozen and no icons respond.
The only way to get rid is to restart the phone.
It has only happened twice, and I will try a screenshot if it happens
again or even take a photo.

--
Jim the Geordie

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: Jim the Geordie
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From: jim@jimXscott.co.uk (Jim the Geordie)
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Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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On 23/09/2024 07:34, Andy Burns wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download.  My
>> guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
>> download icon.  You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
>> killer app to kill them.  Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.
>
> The magnifier option shows as a ping looking glass with a plus symbol, I
> think it can be dragged into position
>
> <https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wEcA5zPQJmg2F7h8V6FN6f-1200-80.jpg>

Found it!
https://www.jimscott.co.uk/Android/Pink_Circle.html
Still no idea what it is
--
Jim the Geordie

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

> Found it!
> https://www.jimscott.co.uk/Android/Pink_Circle.html
> Still no idea what it is

Have you yet killed all the backgrounded apps? You could use a task
killer app, or go into Android settings on each app to stop them.

Have you yet gone through the apps to ensure none have the draw over
other apps permission? After changing the permission on an app,
kill/stop it, and reload it to see if that the app presenting the
interfering icon. Already mentioned this in my prior reply.

The app creating the icon doesn't have to be one you installed. It
could be some bundled app that came on the phone.

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: Jim the Geordie
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On 26/09/2024 23:10, VanguardLH wrote:
> Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Found it!
>> https://www.jimscott.co.uk/Android/Pink_Circle.html
>> Still no idea what it is
>
> Have you yet killed all the backgrounded apps? You could use a task
> killer app, or go into Android settings on each app to stop them.
>
> Have you yet gone through the apps to ensure none have the draw over
> other apps permission? After changing the permission on an app,
> kill/stop it, and reload it to see if that the app presenting the
> interfering icon. Already mentioned this in my prior reply.
>
> The app creating the icon doesn't have to be one you installed. It
> could be some bundled app that came on the phone.

I might do that when I find the time.
I was hoping that someone had already seen and identified this, but my
description of the icon that was poor.
However, this time, given enough time, the 'icon' disappears, suggesting
(to me) that perhaps something was downloading, but I have no idea what.

--
Jim the Geordie

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
From: VanguardLH
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Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

> On 26/09/2024 23:10, VanguardLH wrote:
>> Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Found it!
>>> https://www.jimscott.co.uk/Android/Pink_Circle.html
>>> Still no idea what it is
>>
>> Have you yet killed all the backgrounded apps? You could use a task
>> killer app, or go into Android settings on each app to stop them.
>>
>> Have you yet gone through the apps to ensure none have the draw over
>> other apps permission? After changing the permission on an app,
>> kill/stop it, and reload it to see if that the app presenting the
>> interfering icon. Already mentioned this in my prior reply.
>>
>> The app creating the icon doesn't have to be one you installed. It
>> could be some bundled app that came on the phone.
>
> I might do that when I find the time.
> I was hoping that someone had already seen and identified this, but my
> description of the icon that was poor.
> However, this time, given enough time, the 'icon' disappears, suggesting
> (to me) that perhaps something was downloading, but I have no idea what.

Whatever it is, I would consider it malicious. Anything that locks out
the usability of YOUR property is malware no matter how well intentioned
was the app.

I've tried apps that incorporate advertizing. Not as a banner, or
buried into the GUI of the app, but present fullscreen windows to show
ads. Those fullscreen ads interfere with the use of the phone. You
have to close the window before you can use your phone. Clicking on the
"X" button to close the window can, and often does, run a script. You
aren't just closing the window that blocks access to the phone's
screens, but you also permit execution of the script linked to the "X"
object. Luckily, my phone is old, and still has its own separate nav
bar (Recent, Home, Back), so I could use the Back button to force an
exit from the fullscreen window. Some ads try to pretend to show those
buttons, but they are inside the ad window, so are scripted to do what
the ad wants to do.

The app author disclaims responsibility for how the ads are presented,
because they incorporate someone else's code to retrieve and display the
ads (i.e., Google Ads platform). It's their app. It's their code. If
they bundle in someone else's code, yep, they're still responsible for
the behavior of THEIR app. "No, officer, I didn't kill that person,
because I pulled the trigger on a handgun manufactured by someone else."

I consider any app that presents fullscreen ads to be malware. I rarely
install an app that has any advertizing, but they are getting more rare.
Many apps no longer have a payware version that removes the ads. The
author gets more revenue from the ads than the puny revenue gotten from
paying for the app.

What app is interfering with the use of your phone by obliterating the
nav bar buttons, or otherwise crippled the usability of your phone, I
would consider malware. However, lots of users will suffer loss or
privacy, security, or usability of their property for the sake of
convenience, or features they want despite the pitfalls.

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23/09/2024 07:34, Andy Burns wrote:
> > VanguardLH wrote:
> >
> >> The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download.  My
> >> guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
> >> download icon.  You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
> >> killer app to kill them.  Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.
> >
> > The magnifier option shows as a ping looking glass with a plus symbol, I
> > think it can be dragged into position
> >
> > <https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wEcA5zPQJmg2F7h8V6FN6f-1200-80.jpg>
>
> Found it!
> https://www.jimscott.co.uk/Android/Pink_Circle.html
> Still no idea what it is

I made a screenshot (Windows Snipping Tool) of the icon and used
Google's 'Search by image', but that didn't find anything similar.

Also a direct 'Search with Google Lens' in Chrome on your page, i.e.
better resolution than a screenshot of a screenshot, didn't find
anything.

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
[...]

> Have you yet gone through the apps to ensure none have the draw over
> other apps permission?

Does the permission manager of your phone show such a permission in
its list(s) of possible permissions?

I tried on my phone (Samsung Galaxy A51, Android 13), but its
Permission Manager does not show such a permission.

If a (i.e. Jim's) permission manager shows such a permission, it would
be much easier to see which app(s) use that permission, rather than the
other way around, check each and every app to see if they use that
permission.

[...]

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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On 27/09/2024 11:49, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Have you yet gone through the apps to ensure none have the draw over
>> other apps permission?
>
> Does the permission manager of your phone show such a permission in
> its list(s) of possible permissions?
>
> I tried on my phone (Samsung Galaxy A51, Android 13), but its
> Permission Manager does not show such a permission.
>
> If a (i.e. Jim's) permission manager shows such a permission, it would
> be much easier to see which app(s) use that permission, rather than the
> other way around, check each and every app to see if they use that
> permission.
>
> [...]

What would it show up as on permission manager?
--
Jim the Geordie

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Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
> On 27/09/2024 11:49, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> Have you yet gone through the apps to ensure none have the draw over
> >> other apps permission?
> >
> > Does the permission manager of your phone show such a permission in
> > its list(s) of possible permissions?
> >
> > I tried on my phone (Samsung Galaxy A51, Android 13), but its
> > Permission Manager does not show such a permission.
> >
> > If a (i.e. Jim's) permission manager shows such a permission, it would
> > be much easier to see which app(s) use that permission, rather than the
> > other way around, check each and every app to see if they use that
> > permission.
> >
> > [...]
>
> What would it show up as on permission manager?

That's my question (to VanguardLH). As I said, the Permission Manager
on my phone doesn't show such a permission. (At least, I can't find
one.)

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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Jim the Geordie wrote:

> What would it show up as on permission manager?

Not sure if a Samsung will be same/similar to a Pixel, on mine...

settings, apps, special app access, display over other apps

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Andy Burns wrote on Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:41:41 +0100 :

>> What would it show up as on permission manager?
>
> Not sure if a Samsung will be same/similar to a Pixel, on mine...
>
> settings, apps, special app access, display over other apps

I have not been following this thread but I usually read what Frank and
Andy write (as I learn from them) and, given I am always trying to be
helpful to any OP if I understand his questions, here's a screenshot series
I made to help either the OP or anyone else reading this find the setting.

Samsung Galaxy Android 13:
Settings > Apps > 3dots > Special access > Appear on top > {app = yes/no}
<https://i.postimg.cc/zBJyTtmM/appear-on-top.jpg>

There are also a few perhaps somewhat related Developer options, such as:
Allow screen overlays on Settings = yes/no
"Allow apps that can display over other apps to overlay Settings screens."

Hope this helps others, as that's why I post.

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Jim the Geordie wrote on Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:40:48 +0100 :

> Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons.

It's highly likely, IMHO, to be app-launcher related, so we wouldn't see
the same thing if we didn't use the same app launcher that you're using.

What app launcher are you using?

If you don't know offhand, it tells you (for my Samsung anyway) in
Settings > Apps > Choose default apps > Home app > Default home app

To help the OP out, as always, I've invested the time & energy to create a
screenshot so that the OP will be more efficient in answering the question.
<https://i.postimg.cc/rs56F6cb/homeapp.jpg>

I suspect, strongly so, the issue is app-launcher specific, which is why
the answer to the question will help others help the OP find the solution.

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Jim the Geordie wrote:
>
> > What would it show up as on permission manager?
>
> Not sure if a Samsung will be same/similar to a Pixel, on mine...
>
> settings, apps, special app access, display over other apps

Samsung is similar [1], but does not list anything similar to "display
over other apps".

It does list "Appear on top", but many, many apps have that Special
accesss. For example Camera, Clock, Facebook, Find My Mobile, Google,
Messages, My Files, Phone and many, many more (only listed some ones
which most phones will have and most users will use/be_aware_of).

So I don't think Samsung's "Appear on top" is the same a Pixel's
"display over other apps" (or VanguardLH's "draw over other apps").

[1] Settings -> Apps -> <three_vertical_dots> icon in upper-right ->
Special access

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On 27/09/2024 13:20, Andrew wrote:
> Jim the Geordie wrote on Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:40:48 +0100 :
>
>> Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons.
>
> It's highly likely, IMHO, to be app-launcher related, so we wouldn't see
> the same thing if we didn't use the same app launcher that you're using.
>
> What app launcher are you using?
>
> If you don't know offhand, it tells you (for my Samsung anyway) in
> Settings > Apps > Choose default apps > Home app > Default home app
>
> To help the OP out, as always, I've invested the time & energy to create a
> screenshot so that the OP will be more efficient in answering the question.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/rs56F6cb/homeapp.jpg>
>
> I suspect, strongly so, the issue is app-launcher specific, which is why
> the answer to the question will help others help the OP find the solution.

Thanks. The only entry in Default home app is 'One UI Home'

You do realise that this oddity rarely happens, and my phone is on 24/7?

--
Jim the Geordie

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Frank Slootweg wrote:

> Samsung is similar [1], but does not list anything similar to "display
> over other apps".
>
> It does list "Appear on top", but many, many apps have that Special
> accesss.

Only two apps have "display over other apps" on my phone ...
google and phone.

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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> That's my question (to VanguardLH). As I said, the Permission Manager
> on my phone doesn't show such a permission. (At least, I can't find
> one.)

My Android is too old (v8.0.0) to have the draw-over aka overlay aka
draw over other apps permission. I think it should up in Android 10+.

While I gave the generic nav path to look at the permissions for each
app, I didn't think about some permission manager showing which apps
have which permissions.

Since the OP has a Samsung phone, I found the following article:

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/troubleshooting/TSG01001313/

along with a more general article at:

https://accessibleandroid.com/what-is-display-over-other-apps-permission-on-android-and-when-do-you-need-it/

Well, every phone maker gets to customize Android how they want, and
Samsung used their own nav path to the draw-over permission. I also
read the the draw-over permission may not be shown until you go into
Developer Options (after you enable it) to enable the permission to then
decide which apps can use it.

https://developer.android.com/training/permissions/requesting-special

That discusses the special permissions, and perhaps why Samsung put the
draw-over permission under Special Permissions. In that article, it's
call the "Display over other apps" permission.

Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
> Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons. It
> has what I would call a folder with a downward arrow. It will not move.
> It also covers the Spacebar when I try to text.
> Re-start clears it, but I would like to know what causes it.
> Samsung Galaxy phone with Android v11

That the downward arrow is a download symbol has already been
suggested and has been confirmed by your screenshot of the icon, but
(AFAIK) the most obvious question has not been asked/answered:

Have you looked in your Downloads (or Download) folder to see if there
are any recent files which might give a clue about which app did what
and which might point to the culprit app that's giving the pink circle
download icon on the home screen?

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On 27/09/2024 16:49, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> Occasionally I get a circular pink icon over the bottom row of icons. It
>> has what I would call a folder with a downward arrow. It will not move.
>> It also covers the Spacebar when I try to text.
>> Re-start clears it, but I would like to know what causes it.
>> Samsung Galaxy phone with Android v11
>
> That the downward arrow is a download symbol has already been
> suggested and has been confirmed by your screenshot of the icon, but
> (AFAIK) the most obvious question has not been asked/answered:
>
> Have you looked in your Downloads (or Download) folder to see if there
> are any recent files which might give a clue about which app did what
> and which might point to the culprit app that's giving the pink circle
> download icon on the home screen?

Yes.

--
Jim the Geordie

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Andy Burns wrote on Fri, 27 Sep 2024 13:46:48 +0100 :

>> Samsung is similar [1], but does not list anything similar to "display
>> over other apps".
>>
>> It does list "Appear on top", but many, many apps have that Special
>> accesss.
>
> Only two apps have "display over other apps" on my phone ...
> google and phone.

I have to agree with Frank that my Samsung, for whatever reason, has
probably more than half of my hundreds upon hundreds of apps, with
"Appear on top" turned on. (I install far more apps than most people.)

Some, like "FACM" I have to look up in Muntashirakon App Manager to figure
out what the package name is <com.samsung.android.aircommandmanager>.

Muntashirakon calls that package "Bloatware" so I googled and it's
apparently some kind of quick access Samsung-specific application.
<https://www.samsung.com/ph/support/mobile-devices/what-is-air-command-and-how-to-use-it/>
I couldn't uninstall it with the Android GUI so I used adb to do it.
C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.aircommandmanager
I'll let you know if all hell breaks loose; but most likely it won't.

Another one was "Service Mode" <com.sec.android.app.servicemodeapp>
which Muntashirakon App Manager also claimed was "Bloatware".
Googling that, apparently it can dial out without the Phone app
and is on the list of bloatware for adb to uninstall on GitHub.
<https://gist.github.com/gsurrel/40cc506ac7e31134a87be4ba01a71103?permalink_comment_id=3894537>

Instead of deleting one by one, I think I'll just go en-masse again
(although I tend to blow up phones doing that - but it's just a phone).

###########################
# Phone apps and services #
###########################
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.android.stk" # SIM toolkit
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.android.stk2" # SIM toolkit (maybe for dual-sim devices)
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.android.app.simsettingmgr" # SIM card manager, maybe required, contains configuration and settings for handling dual SIM (give a SIM an icon, a name, and so on)
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.smartcallprovider" # The 4th tab in the Phone app for 'local places'
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.vsim.ericssonnsds.webapp" # NSDSWebApp. The Non Sim Device Solution (NSDS) is linked to VoLTE and VoWifi (Wifi Calling). NSDS allows connecting non sim devices to IMS core: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/hemant-kumar-dewnarain-2b779679
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.android.cts.ctsshim" # Part of the Android Compatibility Test Suite: https://source.android.com/compatibility/cts/setup
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim" # Part of the Android Compatibility Test Suite: https://source.android.com/compatibility/cts/setup
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.crane" # Phone, with extended features: share rich data (doodles, location, text messages). Couldn't find a way to access it from an official interface
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.hiya.star" # Possibly linked to the Phone app "Caller ID and spam protection service" as well as the "Places" feature

adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.ims" # IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) is linked to VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Rich Communication Services (RCS): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.imslogger" # ImsLogger (see above for IMS)
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.imsservice" # IMS Service (see above for IMS)
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.advp.imssettings" # Seem linked to IMS
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.epdg" # ePDG (evolved packet data gateway) could be linked to WiFi Calling and possible VoLTE: http://www.oracle.com/us/industries/communications/wifi-calling-epdg-wp-2874668.pdf

###############
# System apps #
###############
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.accessibility" # Accessibility settings (useful for apps creating virtual buttons such as a pie-menu)
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.app.soundpicker" # The ringtone picker provided by the system for any Alarm app
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.allshare.service.fileshare" # Wi-Fi Direct (bluetooth-wifi sharing of files)
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare" # Nearby service, maybe related to the previous wifi direct fileshare

# Ant+ wireless technology
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus" # ANT+ Plugins Service
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.dsi.ant.sample.acquirechannels" # ANT + DUT
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.dsi.ant.server" # ANT+ HAL service
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.dsi.ant.service.socket" # ANT Radio Service

################################
# Samsung specific system apps #
################################
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.lool" # The Setting entry "Device Care" with battery, storage, memory, and security
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.app.aodservice" # Always-on-Display, handles most of the lockscreen
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.MtpApplication" # PC connection doesn't work well without this helper utility. It is responsible for the popup "Attention, the connected device is unable to access data on this device" if MTP is unsupposted by the computer.
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.wssyncmldm" # Software update: doesn't check OTA updates without
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.android.emergencymode.service" # EmergencyManagerService, linked to the battery's "Maximum power saving" mode
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.android.sdhms" # Samsung Device Health Manager Service, most likely linked to "battery habits" analysis

adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.cover.ledcover" # LED Cover Service

adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.location.nsflp2" # Samsung Location SDK
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.location" # slocation

# Maybe Knox-related
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.ucs.agent.boot" # bootagent, probably linked to "eSE UCS Plugin" below, probably required by Knox
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.ucs.agent.ese" # eSE UCS Plugin, eSE is for "embedded SEcurity", probably required by Knox
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.smartmirroring" # Smart View, for screen mirroring and Chromecast

##################################################
# Samsung user apps, customization, and services #
##################################################
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.contacts" # Samsung "Contacts" app
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.sec.android.app.myfiles" # My Files, file browser
adb shell "cmd package install-existing com.samsung.android.video" # Video, the default video player

adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.themecenter" # Samsung Themes
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.themestore" # Galaxy Themes
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.app.samsungapps" # Galaxy Store
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.app.sbrowser" # Samsung Galaxy Browser
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.rubin.app" # Customization Service
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.daydream.customization" # Some daydream VR customization capability?
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations" # Chrome browser customization
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.scloud" # Samsung Cloud
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.mateagent" # Samsung Galaxy Friends
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.mobileservice" # Samsung Experience Service, handling the Samsung account and experience, required for Samsung Pay
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.weather"
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.daemonapp" # Weather

# Samsing SmartSwitch
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.smartswitchassistant" # Samsung SmartSwitch
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.easyMover" # Related Smart Switch
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent" # Smart Switch Agent
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.shortcutbackupservice" # ShortcutBNR, linked to SmartSwitch Samsung Cloud features

# Equalizers
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.android.app.soundalive" # SoundAlive, responsible for Dobly Atmos and other equalizer stuff (accessible from the Settings app)
adb shell "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sec.hearingadjust" # Adapt Sound, the sound equalizer in Accessibility services


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Subject: Re: Pink circle on Home screen
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On 26/09/2024 22:09, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> On 23/09/2024 07:34, Andy Burns wrote:
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> The pink icon with downward arrow probably indicates a download.  My
>>> guess is some app is running in the background that presents the
>>> download icon.  You could kill all the background apps, or use a task
>>> killer app to kill them.  Or disable "draw over other apps" permission.
>>
>> The magnifier option shows as a ping looking glass with a plus symbol, I
>> think it can be dragged into position
>>
>> <https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wEcA5zPQJmg2F7h8V6FN6f-1200-80.jpg>
>
>
> Found it!
> https://www.jimscott.co.uk/Android/Pink_Circle.html
> Still no idea what it is

You could try taking your phone with its screenshot of the pink circle
into your mobile provider's shop and asking the staff there. One of them
might have seen it before and know what it is.

--
Jeff

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