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Subject: Sound Recorder, great app
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Referred on another forum to a great app.

Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.

Neither title nor description includes voice-activated but it has an
advanced setting which is Skip Silence. I don't know yet if it works.

But what makes it special is that it's free and it has free
transcription, which so far, 25 seconds, works pretty well, even off the
radio.

I don't know if my doctor or Mr. or Mrs. Alito talks loud enough for it
to be able to transcribe or me to be able to hear it, or not.

AIUI, the microphone is usually, almways?, at the bottom, so position
the phone upside down. Facing in/facing out??

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micky wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:00:13 -0400 :

> Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.

Some sound recorder apps which are free & ad free that I've tested in the past.
https://com.nll.asr
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=avinash42.soundrecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asus.soundrecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.danielkim.soundrecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dimowner.audiorecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.axet.audiorecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pk.aar
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.app.voicenote
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.voicerecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vsmart.soundrecorder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.co.globalbest.voicerecording

Subject: Re: Sound Recorder, great app
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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 05:44:28 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net> wrote:

>micky wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:00:13 -0400 :
>
>> Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.
>
>Some sound recorder apps which are free & ad free that I've tested in the past.
> https://com.nll.asr
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=avinash42.soundrecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asus.soundrecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.danielkim.soundrecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dimowner.audiorecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.axet.audiorecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pk.aar
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.app.voicenote
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.voicerecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vsmart.soundrecorder
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.co.globalbest.voicerecording

Which of them will transcribe what was said?

(See the op for deails about Sound Recorder.)

Subject: Re: Sound Recorder, great app
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In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:00:13 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>Referred on another forum to a great app.
>
>Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.

My new favorite app has a premium option for 18 dollars a year, which if
I used it more than 3 times a year might be worth it, that includes 6
upgrades including stereo. How can a phone with one microphone record
stereo?

Do any phones have 2 microphones? Even if they did, how far apart
could they be? Is that far enough to make a difference?

>
>Neither title nor description includes voice-activated but it has an
>advanced setting which is Skip Silence. I don't know yet if it works.
>
>But what makes it special is that it's free and it has free
>transcription, which so far, 25 seconds, works pretty well, even off the
>radio.
>
>I don't know if my doctor or Mr. or Mrs. Alito talks loud enough for it
>to be able to transcribe or me to be able to hear it, or not.
>
>AIUI, the microphone is usually, almways?, at the bottom, so position
>the phone upside down. Facing in/facing out??

Subject: Re: Sound Recorder, great app
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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:48:07 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:00:13 -0400, micky
><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>>Referred on another forum to a great app.
>>
>>Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.
>
>My new favorite app has a premium option for 18 dollars a year, which if
>I used it more than 3 times a year might be worth it, that includes 6
>upgrades including stereo. How can a phone with one microphone record
>stereo?
>
>Do any phones have 2 microphones? Even if they did, how far apart
>could they be? Is that far enough to make a difference?

Another interesting thing is found when I go to Settings / Advanced
Settings.

My low-end Samsung bought 5 years ago has the same two advanced settings
but under Effects, has only
Skip silence and
Acoustic echo canceler.

But my low-mid-price Xiaomi bought 3 years ago also has
Automatic gain control and
Background noise reduction.

Both are set to device default and I guess the Samsung has no default at
all, no circuit or software to do it.

I used both to translate the same 30 seconds of radio. They played back
with what sounded to me like the same volume, and the transcriptions
were of very similar quality. Each made about 2 mistakes that the other
did not make. Mistakes were always substantial, no tiny ones.

Subject: Re: Sound Recorder, great app
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Andrew,

> Some sound recorder apps which are free & ad free that I've tested in the
> past.
[snip list]

Do us a favour, and check the permissions they request/require before you
suggest them.

The "avinash42.soundrecorder" and a few others request a minimum of them,
others request a number that have zero to do with sound recording -
including the AD_ID.

IOW, you might not need to hand over money for them and/or look at ads, but
some of them seem to try to monetize you in other ways. And not everyone
likes that.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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micky wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:15:57 -0400 :

> Which of them will transcribe what was said?

Sigh. How many times do we have to answer the same questions for you?

Seriously micky. I don't recall you ever asking a question which had not
been asked and answered multiple times already on this newsgroup.

Did you ever run a search first, in your entire life, micky?
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=transcribe>

This is just one of many hits on this topic, micky.
*Offline speech-to-text recorder/transcription unofficial*
*Google Recorder APK port now available for many Android phones*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/_Amn35T16NA/>
> (See the op for deails about Sound Recorder.)

Some of the hits are your own threads, micky, asking the same questions.

*Voice Recorder app that will stop recording when it's quiet*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F6TdYrIo_yM/>

It wouldn't be so irksome if we hadn't spent a LOT of time helping you.
But then you ignore all the help we gave you each time you ask anew.

a. We give our heart and soul to help you, micky.
b. And then you ignore every single thing we did
c. Which wasted not only our time - but our good faith in humans too.

Think about that please.

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R.Wieser wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 21:28:20 +0200 :

> Do us a favour, and check the permissions they request/require before you
> suggest them.

Give me credit for responding based on person who is asking the question.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=voice+recorder>

An example is my response to someone like Andy Burns will be quite
different than my response to someone like micky, who never searches before
asking and who never puts useful information into his questions.

It's not the first time micky has asked this question, you know.
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=transcribe>

Some of those resulting threads are authored by micky himself, e.g.,
*Voice Recorder app that will stop recording when it's quiet*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F6TdYrIo_yM/>

And it's not the first time micky asks us to figure out the app from the
icon (which is simply ridiculous, mind you) such as when he describes it as
"Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines".

Note that I've patiently explained to micky a thousand times how to find
the unique package name of any app - and yet micky still describes an app
by the color of its icon (particularly for a common app like a recorder).

That's just three things which are absurd about micky's question, Rudy.

Given I knew at least those three things that you didn't know, you have to
start to begin to get an inkling of why I responded the way that I did.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 20:03:47 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net> wrote:

>micky wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:15:57 -0400 :
>
>> Which of them will transcribe what was said?
>
>Sigh. How many times do we have to answer the same questions for you?

Once. I've never asked that question before, and I've never seen 'apps
that transcribe what they hear' discussed before.
>
>Seriously micky. I don't recall you ever asking a question which had not
>been asked and answered multiple times already on this newsgroup.

I don't care what you recall. 90% or more of the readers here don't
read every post. Many don't read this ng every day or every week or
every month. Do you expect them or me to download and read the 1000's of
posts they've missed before they ask a quesion.

Of course questions have been asked before. I have 37,000 headers and
that's just in the last 4 1/2 years. Many people are happy to answer
questions that have been asked before. If you don't want to, don't.
>
>Did you ever run a search first, in your entire life, micky?
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=transcribe>

You do realize, don't you, that the search you have here will return a
hit if anyone in the whole thread used the word "transcribe" even once,
no matter what the thread was about. Do you want me to wade through all
those threads on the chance one will discuss what I'm interested in?

2) Groups.google no longer records recent posts. 3) As I've just
explained, the search you suggest will return most of its hits about
other than sound recorders.

My OP in this thread made clear the best thing about the app I told
people about was that it transcribed. I didn't ask for any other
suggested apps***, but you come back with a long list of voice recorder
apps, probably none of which do trascrptions. If any do, you don't say
which. How does your post help me? Do you want me to waste my time
checking out a bunch of apps that don't do what I want when I alraady
have one that does, and I didn't ask for another?

***(The only questions I asked were wther the mike was always at the
bottom, and whether it's better to have the phone facing towards one's
body or away.)

>This is just one of many hits on this topic, micky.
> *Offline speech-to-text recorder/transcription unofficial*
> *Google Recorder APK port now available for many Android phones*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/_Amn35T16NA/>

I looked at this just now because you posted it, But this does me no
good because I don't work with APK's, and furthermore it doesn't offer
information. It starts off with a question "Let us know if the Google
Recorder APK port works on your Android 9 or 10 " by Arlen Holder. Just
clicking on the link and reading the first 3 lines was a waste of my
time.

>> (See the op for deails about Sound Recorder.)

Read Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesion War for details about
that war.
>
>Some of the hits are your own threads, micky, asking the same questions.

No, they are not. I've never before asked the two questions in the ***
sentence above or the one in preceding post. You do realize, don't you,
that the search you posted above will return a hit if anyone in the
whole thread used the word "transcribe" even once, no matter what the
thread was about.

This reminds me of that traffic accident kerfuffle, when you couldn't
understand that the total rate of traffic accidents said nothing of
importance about the rate of accidents caused by cell phone usage.
Similarly, the use of "transcribe" somewhere in a thread says nothing
about whether I've asked even a related question, let alone the quesion
you claimed.
>
> *Voice Recorder app that will stop recording when it's quiet*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F6TdYrIo_yM/>

This is an different question entirely, about stopping when it's quiet,
and

>It wouldn't be so irksome if we hadn't spent a LOT of time helping you.

When was that? I remember having a long ridiculous conversation** with
you but I don't remember getting any help.

**that was something to do with traffic accidents so maybe it was not in
CMA.

>But then you ignore all the help we gave you each time you ask anew.

I don't ignore any of the help. Some posts are no help, but I usually
thank people for them anyhow. Sometimes I don't reply and that's
usually because I'm waiting until I've tried the best one or two
suggestiosn in the thread, so I can give some real feedback, and then
time passes.
>
>a. We give our heart and soul to help you, micky.

LOL

>b. And then you ignore every single thing we did

False.

>c. Which wasted not only our time - but our good faith in humans too.

You shouldn't be overly influenced by your interaction with a single
person.

>Think about that please.

If you don't like my posts, don't reply to them.

Subject: Re: Sound Recorder, great app
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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 20:13:51 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net> wrote:

>
>And it's not the first time micky asks us to figure out the app from the
>icon (which is simply ridiculous, mind you) such as when he describes it as
>"Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lin

Can't you read? I didn't ask you to do anything. I told you about a
great app, and in case you wanted to find it, I gave you the same
information I was given to find it. It was enough for me, and it would
have been enough for you if you'd tried. If you wanted to find it but
it wasn't enough, you could have posted back and I would have tried to
find another way. The link is the most obvious. Do you want me to find
the link again and post it? Let me know, but either way, stop your
bellyaching.

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Andrew,

>> Do us a favour, and check the permissions they request/require before you
>> suggest them.
>
> Give me credit for responding based on person who is asking the question.

To be crude about it :
As he posted about 5 hours later, he didn't ask you for anything. And
(again) looking at the OPs (initial) post that you responded too I do not
see a question either. So, you're asking for credit on a basis that doesn't
exist.

But you missed the point : you posted a problematic list of apps, without
even bothering to mention, *in a public newsgroup*.

While your post might have been aimed at a specific person, *everybody* here
is be able to read it - as my response to that list shows. You need to keep
that in mind too. Not everybody here is aware of what "app permissions"
are and what they mean to them.

.... even when you yourself could not care less about your own* private data
being taken or being tracked on every movement you make.

* like your contacts list, which could easily contain persons which *do*
care about it. Most people seem to forget that.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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