bad sector wrote on Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:32:00 -0400 :

> I myself almost ran some construction workers over BECAUSE I was on the
> phone, that's a fact but there was no accident, no report and no
> statistics. I know that because I am a defensive driver; defensive
> driving isn't based on facts or on statisrucs or on increaeses in
> accident rates, it's based on suspicion, paranoia and prejuducial
> treatment of all road situations. I trust my instincts, over a million
> miles without accidents, argue with THAT.

Anecdotes are not science.

Therefore I'm not even going to bother to tell you all the times I did NOT
get into an accident while I was using a cellphone while driving.

Anecdotes are NOT science; they're just stories.

On 6/11/2024 12:27 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 6/9/24 13:34, Loran wrote:
>> Ed P wrote:

>>> I'm told years ago people did not have phones in cars

>> https://youtu.be/Y_uRAp5q07M?t=114

> Some cars did come with record players. IIRC, that's where the brand
> name "Motorola" came from.

"Paul Galvin wanted a brand name for Galvin Manufacturing Corporation's
new car radio, and created the name "Motorola" by linking "motor" (for
motorcar) with "ola" (from Victrola), which was also a popular ending
for many companies at the time, e.g. Moviola, Crayola. The company sold
its first Motorola branded radio on June 23, 1930, to Herbert C. Wall of
Fort Wayne, Indiana, for $30. The Motorola brand name became so well
known that Galvin Manufacturing Corporation later changed its name to
Motorola, Inc., in 1947."

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola>

I worked for Motorola's Western Military Division in Scottsdale AZ (US)
for several years in the 60s. Some of the stuff like the side looking
radar had (gasp) tubes. And the space and submarine stuff was 90% hand
wired with individual components. The good old days... ;)

On 6/11/2024 3:27 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 6/9/24 13:34, Loran wrote:
>> Ed P wrote:
>>> I'm told years ago people did not have phones in cars
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Y_uRAp5q07M?t=114
>
> Some cars did come with record players. IIRC, that's where the brand
> name "Motorola" came from.
>

First one I was was 1959 Plymouth

Paul V. Galvin, the founder of Motorola, created the brand name in 1930
for his company's first car radio. The name "Motorola" combines the
words "motor" and "ola" to mean "sound in motion". "Motor" refers to a
motorcar, while "ola" comes from the word "Victrola" and was a popular
ending for many company names at the time, such as "Moviola" and
"Crayola". Galvin then changed the name of his company from Galvin
Manufacturing Corporation to Motorola

https://www.lelandwest.com/blog/listing.asp?2022/3/the-history-of-record-players-in-cars

The first in-car record player was called the “Highway Hi-Fi Record
Player.” This was a device designed by Dr. Peter Goldmark, who was the
head of CBS Laboratories. CBS was the inventor of the Long-Playing
microgroove record or LP. This record player was first offered in
Chrysler products. At first, it seemed like a win.

On 6/11/2024 5:02 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 3:27 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On 6/9/24 13:34, Loran wrote:
>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>> I'm told years ago people did not have phones in cars
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/Y_uRAp5q07M?t=114
>>
>> Some cars did come with record players. IIRC, that's where the brand
>> name "Motorola" came from.
>>
>
> First one I was was 1959 Plymouth
>
> Paul V. Galvin, the founder of Motorola, created the brand name in 1930
> for his company's first car radio. The name "Motorola" combines the
> words "motor" and "ola" to mean "sound in motion". "Motor" refers to a
> motorcar, while "ola" comes from the word "Victrola" and was a popular
> ending for many company names at the time, such as "Moviola" and
> "Crayola". Galvin then changed the name of his company from Galvin
> Manufacturing Corporation to Motorola
>
> https://www.lelandwest.com/blog/listing.asp?2022/3/the-history-of-record-players-in-cars
>
> The first in-car record player was called the “Highway Hi-Fi Record
> Player.” This was a device designed by Dr. Peter Goldmark, who was the
> head of CBS Laboratories. CBS was the inventor of the Long-Playing
> microgroove record or LP. This record player was first offered in
> Chrysler products. At first, it seemed like a win.

Amazing! I grew up in Detroit, and this is the first time I EVER heard
of a record player for cars.