candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes:

> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07
>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>> > Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>> >> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>> >> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using
>>> >> > >> Netscape .9 for
>>> >> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>> >> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>> >>
>>> >> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>> >> > And pine and tin.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>>> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>>> >> old school!
>>> >>
>>> > Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>>> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>>
>>> I use slrn.
>>
>> I couldn't get into slrn. :/
>
>
> Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
> scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
> once you do.

I've used slrn for a while. I also liked it how it displayed threads
visually, but also never got into the scripting language---I guess I
never needed either.

Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote at 22:38 this Thursday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> writes:
>
>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07
>>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>> > Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>>> >> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>> >> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using
>>>> >> > >> Netscape .9 for
>>>> >> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>>> >> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>>> >> > And pine and tin.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>>>> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>>>> >> old school!
>>>> >>
>>>> > Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>>>> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>>>
>>>> I use slrn.
>>>
>>> I couldn't get into slrn. :/
>>
>>
>> Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
>> scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
>> once you do.
>
> I've used slrn for a while. I also liked it how it displayed threads
> visually, but also never got into the scripting language---I guess I
> never needed either.

I just used it to hack in xface functionality :D
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes:

> Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote at 22:38 this Thursday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> writes:
>>
>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07
>>>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>>>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>> > Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>>>> >> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>> >> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> > >
>>>>> >> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using
>>>>> >> > >> Netscape .9 for
>>>>> >> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>>> >> > >
>>>>> >> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>>>> >> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>>>> >> > And pine and tin.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>>>>> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>>>>> >> old school!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> > Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>>>>> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>>>>
>>>>> I use slrn.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't get into slrn. :/
>>>
>>>
>>> Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
>>> scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
>>> once you do.
>>
>> I've used slrn for a while. I also liked it how it displayed threads
>> visually, but also never got into the scripting language---I guess I
>> never needed either.
>
>
> I just used it to hack in xface functionality :D

Oh, I remember loving X-Face headers. I gotta make one once again.
Thanks for reminding me. :)

Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>
> I feel so old-fashioned. Am I the only one still using an abacus?

That's not IBM-compatible. The IBM FE will take it away if he sees you
with it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:
>
> > In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
> >> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
> >>> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> >>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> >>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> >>>>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
> >>>>> And pine and tin.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
> >>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
> >>>> old school!
> >>>>
> >>> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
> >>> mutt to view HTML E-mail.
> >
> >> I use slrn.
> >
> > I couldn't get into slrn. :/
> >
>
> I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
> and not online only as the default alpine does.

I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
perfectly for some other reason.

--
Chris Green
·

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> wrote:
>>>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>>>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>>>>>>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>>>>>> And pine and tin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>>>>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>>>>>> old school!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>>>>> mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>>>
>>>> I use slrn.
>>>
>>> I couldn't get into slrn. :/
>>>
>>
>> I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
>> and not online only as the default alpine does.
>
> I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
> effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
> never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
> perfectly for some other reason.

Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and does
its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away and stop
compiling on modern linux systems. =(

D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:

[...]

>> I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
>> effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
>> never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
>> perfectly for some other reason.
>
> Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and
> does its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away
> and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(

You'll adjust it as necessary---how's your C programming? :P

D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 15:20 this Friday (GMT):
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
>
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:
>>>
>>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>>>>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>>>>>>>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>>>>>>> And pine and tin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>>>>>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>>>>>>> old school!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>>>>>> mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>>>>
>>>>> I use slrn.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't get into slrn. :/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
>>> and not online only as the default alpine does.
>>
>> I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
>> effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
>> never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
>> perfectly for some other reason.
>
> Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and does
> its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away and stop
> compiling on modern linux systems. =(

I personally just use slrnpull, its easy to set up and is designed to
work with slrn so yeah ^^
Also slrnpull is why every post i make is on a multiple of 10
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Wolfgang Agnes wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
>>> effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
>>> never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
>>> perfectly for some other reason.
>>
>> Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and
>> does its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away
>> and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(
>
> You'll adjust it as necessary---how's your C programming? :P
>

True. I can do simple C-stuff, and I can tinker around even, until I get
stuff to compile. But as soon as it gets above beginner level, things get
murky.

Fortunately Eduardom, the current maintainer, is very approachable and
even answers here in the news group. So on more than one occasion he has
helped me with a patch and advice. That in itself, is worth its weight in
gold!

D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Wolfgang Agnes wrote:
>
>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
>>>> effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
>>>> never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
>>>> perfectly for some other reason.
>>>
>>> Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and
>>> does its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away
>>> and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(
>>
>> You'll adjust it as necessary---how's your C programming? :P
>>
>
> True. I can do simple C-stuff, and I can tinker around even, until I
> get stuff to compile. But as soon as it gets above beginner level,
> things get murky.
>
> Fortunately Eduardom, the current maintainer, is very approachable and
> even answers here in the news group. So on more than one occasion he
> has helped me with a patch and advice. That in itself, is worth its
> weight in gold!

Sounds like Microsoft!

:)

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.misc.]
On 2024-11-06, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/24 1:45 PM, sticks wrote:
>> > On 11/4/2024 2:10 PM, knuttle wrote:
>> >> On 11/04/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> >>> but a trimmed-down adaptation of the c
>> >> I remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with
>> >> Very limited capacity. The one particular update, I remember I went to
>> >> my son-in-laws house and down loaded it through his ISP which came into
>> >> his house for his LAN. His system which was many times fasted the my modem.
>> >>
>> >> I have stayed with Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird and I believe
>> >> it is the best program out there for browsing the internet, handling
>> >> your email, and browsing the newsgroups. I was pleased when they added
>> >> the Scheduling/Calendar to Thunderbird. We use it exclusively to
>> >> maintain our home schedule to avoid conflicts. I believe the
>> >> Thunderbird Scheduling/Calendar is under appreciated.
>> >
>> > One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
>> > The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing
>> > into the account has made life easy many times. With the old people I
>> > have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
>>
>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>
> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>

I'd love to build Amaya 8.x (the last one with Motif support with
OpenMotif, but I am not able too; I tried editing the code
but I get some c++ error which I can't fix). It's 99% ready.

OTOH, Arena does it fine.

https://0x0.st/XD3Y.tgz

If anyone wants to try Arena instead of Amaya, untar, it,
head to arena-last/WWW/Arena/,
install the dependencies and run make clean;make.

Ant wrote:
> I still use SeaMonkey that was based on Netscape's design (Communicator)!
>
>
> In alt.comp.software.firefox Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> Mosaic Communications Corporation (later Netscape Communications) was
>> founded 30 years ago. They were brash enough to thumb their noses at
>> Microsoft. And if you remember that time, Microsoft was indeed slow to
>> appreciate the importance of the then-up-and-coming Internet. Bill
>> Gates famously put out a book called ???The Way Ahead???, talking about
>> how he saw the future of computing evolving, and he didn???t even
>> mention the Internet, except in a hastily-added postscript.
>
>> But once the changes in the marketplace became evident, the
>> supercarrier did manage to turn itself around. And Microsoft fought
>> back, by both fair means and foul, to keep Windows not only the
>> dominant desktop platform, but the dominant platform for consuming
>> Internet content.
>
>> One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
>> to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
>> the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
>> jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
>> as Firefox.
>
>> <https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/how-netscape-lives-on-30-years-of-shaping-the-web-open-source-and-business/>
>

Upon the purchase of our first computer from CyberMax in '97 we loaded
up Netscape 3.0 Gold from the accompanying Cybermax installation discs

and have been happily using it's various iterations ever since.

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