On 11/5/24 17:39, Rich wrote:
> In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:32:21 -0500, bad sector wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/4/24 14:35, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct
>>>> was to open-source the browser.
>>>
>>> THAT was a class act! I did something vaguely similar when I took
>>> out a provisional patent and then let it lapse for the express
>>> purpose of thus hard-wiring the idea into public domain to prevent
>>> anyone from ever being able to take out a patent on the same idea.
>>
>> Patents in the public interest ... now THAT I can applaud!
>
> Officially, that is (at least in the US) the official, Constitution
> derived, reason for the patent system in the first place. In exchange
> for a limited length monopoly, the public gets disclosure of the
> invention and the ability to use it once the limited length monopoly
> runs out.
>
> Of course, a 20 year monopoly lets bad actors be bad for 20 years....
>
>> But then, simply publishing the idea would, in theory, count as
>> “prior art”, wouldn’t it? Though in practice it is very hard to get
>> patents invalidated anyway, at least in the US system (also *cough*
>> East Texas *cough*).
>
> Yes, it does not matter the manner of publication, just the fact that
> it was published.
>
> But, bad sector's method has the added benefit of the fact that the one
> "database" that is most easily accessible to the examiner's working in
> the patent office is the actual database of prior patents. So
> inserting his idea into the existing patent database itself meant the
> document had the best chance that it would be found, and possibly used,
> to block someone else.

Exactly, which is is why I done it. There are many ideas in the public
domain by the mere fact of once having been published but if they don't
turn up in an early search you may later have to prosecute your case and
end up in a never-ending brawl costing attorney fees and such other
luxuries that most mortals will NEVER be able to afford. I'm no expert
but the provisional patent system was an ideal alternative for $100
which I was pleased to invest into screwing wanna-be chislers in
waiting. The provisional system was later terminated.

And what led up to it all was an earlier patent I had actually had
prosecuted by an american pattent attorney, that one cost me a LOT more
and I had my hopes up but the potential market (military) just wasn't
smart enough for my invention. I still think it to be an excellent idea
and had developed it as an expert instructor and sometimes stunt
sky-diver, even discussed it for a very short while with the Royal
Military College, alas to no avail. Continued renewals would have eaten
my house so I had it lapse into public domain ...as my first lesson :-)

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/4/24 1:45 PM, sticks wrote:
> > On 11/4/2024 2:10 PM, knuttle wrote:
> >> On 11/04/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >>> but a trimmed-down adaptation of the c
> >> I remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with
> >> Very limited capacity. The one particular update, I remember I went to
> >> my son-in-laws house and down loaded it through his ISP which came into
> >> his house for his LAN. His system which was many times fasted the my modem.
> >>
> >> I have stayed with Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird and I believe
> >> it is the best program out there for browsing the internet, handling
> >> your email, and browsing the newsgroups. I was pleased when they added
> >> the Scheduling/Calendar to Thunderbird. We use it exclusively to
> >> maintain our home schedule to avoid conflicts. I believe the
> >> Thunderbird Scheduling/Calendar is under appreciated.
> >
> > One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
> > The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing
> > into the account has made life easy many times. With the old people I
> > have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
>
> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!

I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>

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On 11/5/24 16:51, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:32:21 -0500, bad sector wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/24 14:35, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was to
>>> open-source the browser.
>>
>> THAT was a class act! I did something vaguely similar when I took out a
>> provisional patent and then let it lapse for the express purpose of thus
>> hard-wiring the idea into public domain to prevent anyone from ever
>> being able to take out a patent on the same idea.
>
> Patents in the public interest ... now THAT I can applaud!

yeah, I was rather proud of it, seems like in another life now

> But then, simply publishing the idea would, in theory, count as “prior
> art”, wouldn’t it? Though in practice it is very hard to get patents
> invalidated anyway, at least in the US system (also *cough* East Texas
> *cough*).

Ideally 'prior art' would block another applicant, but yes, once granted
overturning would be a task and a half, especially with thin records.

In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
> for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!

I used Mosaic quite a lot in the very early days. Of course it was
being used on an X terminal (yes, real X terminal) connected to a Sun
Sparc Station 20 in another building at work.

IIRC it was Mosaic that I used to pull up photos of Comet
Shoemaker-Levy 9's impact with Jupiter in 1994 on that same X terminal
a mere few hours after the impact occurred.

On 11/5/24 6:43 PM, sticks wrote:
> On 11/5/2024 8:19 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>> One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
>>> The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing
>>> into the account has made life easy many times.  With the old people I
>>> have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
>>
>> Heh.  I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>> linux.  I even used Mosaic a few times!
>
> I meant no disrespect,

No worries!

> and should have said older than me (I ain't no
> spring chicken). Couple days ago, my mom got silly and called the
> number on an email from someone claiming to be from paypal saying they
> were charging her account $500. My younger nephew was there at the
> time. She figured out during the call it was a scam and hung up.
> Delete the email and move on. No harm.

I've got 3 of these calls so far: "Hey grandma, I'm in trouble..."
Surprisingly effective if you don't have that much contact with the
grandspawn. Ask for his dog's name.

> For some reason the nephew decides she needs to reinstall windows cause
> she got phished. Not sure exactly what procedure he used, but he
> effectively did a full install and erased everything she had on her
> system. All pictures, documents, contacts...every damn thing. He never
> asked if she needed anything saved or backed up.

That's unforgiveable. At the very least the little shithead is out of
the will!

> Then, he got stuck in
> an endless loop which would not allow it to finish the installation. He
> texts me for help, and I let him sweat it out. When he failed to figure
> out how to move forward I told him to just leave it and I would take
> care of it.
>
> I was able to get it done and get everything installed again, and
> Firefox was the only thing that was back as it should be because of
> having the Firefox Account. Didn't lose any email since I had her on
> IMAP, but he toasted all her contacts.
>
> I imaged it all before giving it back to her and hope she learned a
> lesson or two.

I've got 5 (maybe 6) rotating backups of my entire working partition and
I do a new one every few days. I don't think you can do that with windows.

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On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>
> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>

I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.

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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:07:57 -0500, bad sector wrote:

> And what led up to it all was an earlier patent I had actually had
> prosecuted by an american pattent attorney, that one cost me a LOT more
> and I had my hopes up but the potential market (military) just wasn't
> smart enough for my invention.

Making money from patents is as likely as winning the lottery.

Patents are about “invention”, but success in business comes, not from
“invention”, but from “innovation”.

On 11/05/2024 9:48 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 05.11.24 21:43, sticks wrote:
>> On 11/5/2024 8:19 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
>>>> The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing
>>>> into the account has made life easy many times.  With the old people I
>>>> have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
>>>
>>> Heh.  I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>>> linux.  I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>
>> I meant no disrespect, and should have said older than me (I ain't no
>> spring chicken). Couple days ago, my mom got silly and called the
>> number on an email from someone claiming to be from paypal saying they
>> were charging her account $500. My younger nephew was there at the
>> time. She figured out during the call it was a scam and hung up.
>> Delete the email and move on. No harm.
>>
>> For some reason the nephew decides she needs to reinstall windows cause
>> she got phished. Not sure exactly what procedure he used, but he
>> effectively did a full install and erased everything she hi DONad on her
>> system. All pictures, documents, contacts...every damn thing. He never
>> asked if she needed anything saved or backed up. Then, he got stuck in
>> an endless loop which would not allow it to finish the installation. He
>> texts me for help, and I let him sweat it out. When he failed to figure
>> out how to move forward I told him to just leave it and I would take
>> care of it.
>>
>> I was able to get it done and get everything installed again, and
>> Firefox was the only thing that was back as it should be because of
>> having the Firefox Account. Didn't lose any email since I had her on
>> IMAP, but he toasted all her contacts.
>
> My goodness! Use a Mac with iCloud.
>
>> I imaged it all before giving it back to her and hope she learned a
>> lesson or two.
>
> Obviously not yet.
>
>
I don't use the cloud, but have two computers and an external drive.
The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is
backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.

On 06.11.24 06:56, knuttle wrote:
> On 11/05/2024 9:48 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 05.11.24 21:43, sticks wrote:
>>> On 11/5/2024 8:19 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
>>>>> The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing
>>>>> into the account has made life easy many times.  With the old people I
>>>>> have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
>>>>
>>>> Heh.  I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>>>> linux.  I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>
>>> I meant no disrespect, and should have said older than me (I ain't no
>>> spring chicken). Couple days ago, my mom got silly and called the
>>> number on an email from someone claiming to be from paypal saying they
>>> were charging her account $500. My younger nephew was there at the
>>> time. She figured out during the call it was a scam and hung up.
>>> Delete the email and move on. No harm.
>>>
>>> For some reason the nephew decides she needs to reinstall windows cause
>>> she got phished. Not sure exactly what procedure he used, but he
>>> effectively did a full install and erased everything she hi DONad on her
>>> system. All pictures, documents, contacts...every damn thing. He never
>>> asked if she needed anything saved or backed up. Then, he got stuck in
>>> an endless loop which would not allow it to finish the installation. He
>>> texts me for help, and I let him sweat it out. When he failed to figure
>>> out how to move forward I told him to just leave it and I would take
>>> care of it.
>>>
>>> I was able to get it done and get everything installed again, and
>>> Firefox was the only thing that was back as it should be because of
>>> having the Firefox Account. Didn't lose any email since I had her on
>>> IMAP, but he toasted all her contacts.
>>
>> My goodness! Use a Mac with iCloud.
>>
>>> I imaged it all before giving it back to her and hope she learned a
>>> lesson or two.
>>
>> Obviously not yet.
>>
>>
> I don't use the cloud, but have two computers and an external drive.
> The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is
> backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
> a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
> not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.

A disaster like stick's is not very probable in your case. I prefer a
less time consuming way to have always and everywhere access to my data.

BTW: A cloud is not really a backup. For this purpose I use Time Machine
to even protect my data from a total failure of Apple Servers. It is
done continuously (every hour) on my lead machine.

Data should always totally independent of the hardware. You should be
able to smile if the Android or iPhone or even the laptop drops into the
sea or is run over by truck.

--
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:56:02 -0500, knuttle wrote:

> The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is
> backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
> a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
> not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.

But the syncing will delete the file on the backup as well, the next time
it runs.

To guard against this, you need to maintain multiple generations of
backup, say, going back 7 days.

On 11/06/2024 1:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:56:02 -0500, knuttle wrote:
>
>> The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is
>> backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
>> a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
>> not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.
>
> But the syncing will delete the file on the backup as well, the next time
> it runs.
>
> To guard against this, you need to maintain multiple generations of
> backup, say, going back 7 days.
I use Syncback free, to do my syncs. When it finds differences it gives
the user a list of files that are different and the user decides what
files to copy where. Nothing is ever lost completely, unless the user
messes up.

With Syncback Free, the files as stored under the unamended files names,
so if there is a difference, the file is saved under the same name on
both computes with user instructions.

Using Syncback Free, you can do a back up. In the backup mode, the files
are identified with date and time to distinguish them.

On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:48:42 -0500, knuttle wrote:

> On 11/06/2024 1:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> To guard against this, you need to maintain multiple generations of
>> backup, say, going back 7 days.
>
> I use Syncback free, to do my syncs. When it finds differences it gives
> the user a list of files that are different and the user decides what
> files to copy where.

I use rsync. I set up an automatic system for one client which did backups
twice daily going back 14 days. With careful filtering of less important
files, it didn’t take up much more space than the original volume it was
backing up.

rsync has this need feature where you can do an incremental backup that
looks just like a full backup for restoration purposes. That is, it
dedupes files which haven’t changed since the previous backup.

In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> >
> > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>

> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
> And pine and tin.

I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!

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In alt.comp.software.firefox Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
> > for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!

> I used Mosaic quite a lot in the very early days. Of course it was
> being used on an X terminal (yes, real X terminal) connected to a Sun
> Sparc Station 20 in another building at work.

I remember using it in my college's computer science's lab. It was
running UNIX, but I don't remember which OS specifically. I doubt it was
Solaris. Linux, most likely!

> IIRC it was Mosaic that I used to pull up photos of Comet
> Shoemaker-Levy 9's impact with Jupiter in 1994 on that same X terminal
> a mere few hours after the impact occurred.

For me, it was ants. Ha!
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:07:57 -0500, bad sector wrote:
>
>> And what led up to it all was an earlier patent I had actually had
>> prosecuted by an american pattent attorney, that one cost me a LOT more
>> and I had my hopes up but the potential market (military) just wasn't
>> smart enough for my invention.
>
>Making money from patents is as likely as winning the lottery.

Making money from LICENSING patents is as likely as winning the lottery.
But there are plenty of other ways patents can be profitable, beginning
with looking very good on your resume when you're looking for employment.
And ending with useful publicity too.
--scott
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Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> > >
> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>
> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
> > And pine and tin.
>
> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
> old school!
>
Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
mutt to view HTML E-mail.

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In alt.comp.software.firefox Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> > In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> > > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> > > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> > > >
> > > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
> >
> > > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
> > > And pine and tin.
> >
> > I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
> > earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
> > old school!
> >
> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
> mutt to view HTML E-mail.

Ah, I have mutt use eLinks. Yay, we're old school! :D
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On 11/7/2024 3:03 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>>
>>>> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>
>>> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>> And pine and tin.
>>
>> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>> old school!
>>
> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
> mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>

I feel so old-fashioned. Am I the only one still using an abacus?

On 11/6/24 6:08 PM, Ant wrote:
> In alt.comp.software.firefox Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
>> > for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>
>> I used Mosaic quite a lot in the very early days. Of course it was
>> being used on an X terminal (yes, real X terminal) connected to a Sun
>> Sparc Station 20 in another building at work.

Maybe 1993. Some people wanted to develop a website for the company I
worked for, and I was asked to evaluate their presentation. They
brought their apple computer into the conference room and ran a demo.
Lovely. I asked for a separate phone line and installed Mosaic so I
could test it out in real time on real equipment. Abysmal failure.
Took forever to load and the graphics were sadly lacking on ordinary
monitors. Life used to be SOOOO much easier!

> I remember using it in my college's computer science's lab. It was
> running UNIX, but I don't remember which OS specifically. I doubt it was
> Solaris. Linux, most likely!
>
>
>> IIRC it was Mosaic that I used to pull up photos of Comet
>> Shoemaker-Levy 9's impact with Jupiter in 1994 on that same X terminal
>> a mere few hours after the impact occurred.
>
> For me, it was ants. Ha!

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This is not a drill." --MWilliams

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>> > >
>> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>
>> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>> > And pine and tin.
>>
>> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>> old school!
>>
> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
> mutt to view HTML E-mail.

I use slrn.
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In alt.comp.software.firefox Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> On 11/7/2024 3:03 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> > Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> >> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> >>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> >>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> >>>>
> >>>> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
> >>
> >>> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
> >>> And pine and tin.
> >>
> >> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
> >> old school!
> >>
> > Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.

> I feel so old-fashioned. Am I the only one still using an abacus?

The physical device or the software? ;)
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In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
> > Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> >> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> >> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
> >> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> >> > >
> >> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
> >> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
> >>
> >> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
> >> > And pine and tin.
> >>
> >> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
> >> old school!
> >>
> > Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.

> I use slrn.

I couldn't get into slrn. :/
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In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/6/24 6:08 PM, Ant wrote:
> > In alt.comp.software.firefox Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> >> In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
> >> > for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
> >
> >> I used Mosaic quite a lot in the very early days. Of course it was
> >> being used on an X terminal (yes, real X terminal) connected to a Sun
> >> Sparc Station 20 in another building at work.

> Maybe 1993. Some people wanted to develop a website for the company I
> worked for, and I was asked to evaluate their presentation. They
> brought their apple computer into the conference room and ran a demo.
> Lovely. I asked for a separate phone line and installed Mosaic so I
> could test it out in real time on real equipment. Abysmal failure.
> Took forever to load and the graphics were sadly lacking on ordinary
> monitors. Life used to be SOOOO much easier!

Good old dialup! Got to compress, etc.
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>> > Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> >> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>> >> > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>> >> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>> >> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>> >>
>> >> > I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>> >> > And pine and tin.
>> >>
>> >> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>> >> old school!
>> >>
>> > Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>
>> I use slrn.
>
> I couldn't get into slrn. :/

Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
once you do.
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:

> In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>>> In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
>>>>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
>>>>
>>>>> I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
>>>>> And pine and tin.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
>>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
>>>> old school!
>>>>
>>> Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
>>> mutt to view HTML E-mail.
>
>> I use slrn.
>
> I couldn't get into slrn. :/
>

I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
and not online only as the default alpine does.