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Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: Computer Nerd Kev
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:51 UTC
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From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
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D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 08:34 this Sunday (GMT):
>>> Surprisingly, youtube-dl (or its successors) continue to be actively
>>> maintained.
>>
>> I thought youtube-dl was shut down? yt-dlp works better for me anyway.
>>
>
> Yes, this is the truth!

No it's wrong actually, youtube-dl is still developed, latest
commit 2024-07-24. I've already mentioned that in two responses to
that poster though (when they went by "candycane"), so I doubt the
value in correcting their statement again.

But development did cease on another YouTube downloader script
recently:
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/youtubedown-help-needed-2/

> Works wonders for
> downloading documentaries, rare clips, some stuff you cannot torrent. All
> available for free om youtube, to download and watch at your leisure. =)

Exactly the case for youtube-dl too, and it supports more Python
versions.

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Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: D
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:06 UTC
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 08:34 this Sunday (GMT):
>>>> Surprisingly, youtube-dl (or its successors) continue to be actively
>>>> maintained.
>>>
>>> I thought youtube-dl was shut down? yt-dlp works better for me anyway.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, this is the truth!
>
> No it's wrong actually, youtube-dl is still developed, latest
> commit 2024-07-24. I've already mentioned that in two responses to
> that poster though (when they went by "candycane"), so I doubt the
> value in correcting their statement again.
>
> But development did cease on another YouTube downloader script
> recently:
> https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/youtubedown-help-needed-2/
>
>> Works wonders for
>> downloading documentaries, rare clips, some stuff you cannot torrent. All
>> available for free om youtube, to download and watch at your leisure. =)
>
> Exactly the case for youtube-dl too, and it supports more Python
> versions.

youtube-dl stopped working for me, so that is why I switched to yt-dlp and
everything started to work again.

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: Computer Nerd Kev
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:20 UTC
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D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> Exactly the case for youtube-dl too, and it supports more Python
>> versions.
>
> youtube-dl stopped working for me, so that is why I switched to yt-dlp and
> everything started to work again.

You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
their website. Newer executables built from the development code
are available here:
https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/

Or to download the latest one directly:
https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl

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Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: candycanearter07
Newsgroups: comp.misc
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:40 UTC
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote at 22:20 this Monday (GMT):
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Exactly the case for youtube-dl too, and it supports more Python
>>> versions.
>>
>> youtube-dl stopped working for me, so that is why I switched to yt-dlp and
>> everything started to work again.
>
> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
> are available here:
> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>
> Or to download the latest one directly:
> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl

Ah, yeah. Classic debian. Once I installed the backports version it
worked again.
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Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: Computer Nerd Kev
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:16 UTC
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
> are available here:
> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>
> Or to download the latest one directly:
> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl

And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.

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Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: D
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 09:11 UTC
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>> are available here:
>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>
>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>
> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>

Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)

Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
and it usually starts to work again.

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: Joerg Walther
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:13 UTC
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D wrote:

>Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>
>Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>and it usually starts to work again.

And it's easy, just type yt-dlp -U and it brings you to version
2024.07.25.

-jw-
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Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: Rich
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D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>> are available here:
>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>
>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>
>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>
>
> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>
> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
> and it usually starts to work again.

It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
revenue.

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: D
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Rich wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>> are available here:
>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>
>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>
>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>
>>
>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>
>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>> and it usually starts to work again.
>
> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
> revenue.
>

This is the truth! I find it hilarious that youtube is allowed to have
loads of copyrighted material on it, and no one even blinks. But should a
new torrent site pop up, that does not even hold the data, the police are
all over the place.

But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
rule nowadays.

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D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Rich wrote:
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>> are available here:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>
>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>
>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>
>> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>> revenue.
>>
>
> This is the truth! I find it hilarious that youtube is allowed to have
> loads of copyrighted material on it, and no one even blinks.

Well, supposedly youtube processes tons of DMCA requests per day, but
that process is largely "whack-a-mole" like, so lots of stuff remains
for a while until the Mafia notices it and files a takedown. They also
have their internal "content-id" system that scans and takes down
stuff (although it is blamed for many more improper takedowns than
proper ones).

At the same time, an army division's worth of lawyers can provide a lot
of incentive to the policing types to "tread lightly".

> But should a new torrent site pop up, that does not even hold the
> data, the police are all over the place.

That's largely due to the lack of an army division's worth of lawyers
on staff at the new torrent site, combined with the Mafia's view of
"torrent===piracy in all cases".

> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
> rule nowadays.

It's more "different enforcement levels based upon how much pushback
the entity in the cross-hairs can produce" and such level of pushback is
often directly correlated with "how much money that entity can bring to
the lawyers".

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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

[...]

> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
> rule nowadays.

It has always been the rule.

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
>> rule nowadays.
>
> It has always been the rule.
>

Not in the state of nature! ;) Jokes aside, to me it seems that it is
getting worse.

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:
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>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
>>> rule nowadays.
>>
>> It has always been the rule.
>>
>
> Not in the state of nature! ;)

That's quite correct. :)

> Jokes aside, to me it seems that it is getting worse.

It looks worrisome.

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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>> are available here:
>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>
>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>
>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>
>>
>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>
>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>> and it usually starts to work again.
>
> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
> revenue.

And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>> are available here:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>
>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>
>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>
>> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>> revenue.
>
> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.

Yes, that too, since ad-blockers also reduce their ad impressions.

Remember, youtube/google are, first and formost, advertising companies.
Anything even remotely useful to us (video streaming, search, etc.) is
a far distant second to the needs of those advertisers.

If they could still serve ad impressions but not offer all those
secondary (to them) useful services, guess where the useful services
would go.....

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:
>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
>>>> rule nowadays.
>>>
>>> It has always been the rule.
>>>
>>
>> Not in the state of nature! ;)
>
> That's quite correct. :)
>
>> Jokes aside, to me it seems that it is getting worse.
>
> It looks worrisome.
>

But together we can change it for the better! ;)

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, candycanearter07 wrote:

> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>> are available here:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>
>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>
>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>
>> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>> revenue.
>
>
> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
>

Ahh... so that is the explanation! I wondered why this started to happen,
but good that the good guys are on top of it! =)

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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:06:16 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:
>
> > D <nospam@example.net> writes:
> >
> >> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:
> >>
> >>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
> >>>
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>>> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
> >>>> rule nowadays.
> >>>
> >>> It has always been the rule.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Not in the state of nature! ;)
> >
> > That's quite correct. :)
> >
> >> Jokes aside, to me it seems that it is getting worse.
> >
> > It looks worrisome.
> >
>
> But together we can change it for the better! ;)
Trolling for Trump doesn't help.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:06:16 +0200
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:
>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Johanne Fairchild wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>> But different laws for different people and organizations, that is the
>>>>>> rule nowadays.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has always been the rule.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not in the state of nature! ;)
>>>
>>> That's quite correct. :)
>>>
>>>> Jokes aside, to me it seems that it is getting worse.
>>>
>>> It looks worrisome.
>>>
>>
>> But together we can change it for the better! ;)
> Trolling for Trump doesn't help.
>

Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
forgive you when he wins! =)

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: candycanearter07
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Organization: the-candyden-of-code
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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 15:45 this Friday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>>> are available here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
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>>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>>
>>> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>>> revenue.
>>
>> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
>> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
>> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
>
> Yes, that too, since ad-blockers also reduce their ad impressions.
>
> Remember, youtube/google are, first and formost, advertising companies.
> Anything even remotely useful to us (video streaming, search, etc.) is
> a far distant second to the needs of those advertisers.
>
> If they could still serve ad impressions but not offer all those
> secondary (to them) useful services, guess where the useful services
> would go.....

Google has killed so many products theres a whole website dedicated to
the "Google Graveyard"
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D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 20:07 this Friday (GMT):
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> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>>> are available here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>>
>>> It is. Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>>> revenue.
>>
>>
>> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
>> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
>> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
>>
>
> Ahh... so that is the explanation! I wondered why this started to happen,
> but good that the good guys are on top of it! =)

So am I! Of course, Google will keep trying.
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
> forgive you when he wins! =)

Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?

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Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:

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> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
>> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
>> forgive you when he wins! =)
>
> Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
> untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?
>

I don't think so, but you can never be sure. ;) Maybe there's a clue in
the headers of the messages?

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
From: Mike Spencer
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Organization: Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:
>
>>
>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>
>>> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
>>> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
>>> forgive you when he wins! =)
>>
>> Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
>> untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?
>>
>
> I don't think so, but you can never be sure. ;) Maybe there's a clue in
> the headers of the messages?

Different originating news servers. Suggestive but not conclusive.

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Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

Subject: Re: Heat Death of the Internet
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:

>
> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
>>>> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
>>>> forgive you when he wins! =)
>>>
>>> Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
>>> untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?
>>>
>>
>> I don't think so, but you can never be sure. ;) Maybe there's a clue in
>> the headers of the messages?
>
> Different originating news servers. Suggestive but not conclusive.
>

Well, I'd say, I'm not the blacksmith and bio fan! ;)

Subject	Author
Heat Death of the Internet	Ben Collver
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Oregonian Haruspex
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Marco Moock
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Ben Collver
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Stefan Ram
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Marco Moock
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Marco Moock
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Joerg Walther
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Marco Moock
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Scott Alfter
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Scott Dorsey
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Scott Dorsey
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	candycanearter07
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	candycanearter07
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Computer Nerd Kev
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Joerg Walther
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Rich
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Rich
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Johanne Fairchild
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Johanne Fairchild
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Kerr-Mudd, John
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Mike Spencer
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Mike Spencer
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	candycanearter07
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	Rich
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	candycanearter07
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	D
Re: Heat Death of the Internet	candycanearter07