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* DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25Jobst Schmalenbach
`* Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25Claus Aßmann
 +* Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25Marco Moock
 |`- Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25Jobst Schmalenbach
 `- Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25Jobst Schmalenbach

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Subject: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25
From: Jobst Schmalenbach
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 05:06 UTC
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jobst@barrett.com.au (Jobst Schmalenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on
port 25
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:06:31 +1100
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Hi

I didn't know "Modifiers=A" existed until I came across this

https://www.hydrus.org.uk/journal/sendmail-noauth.html

referencing a thread in

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mail.sendmail/c/c8x-bA07_d0

Since the discovery of "Modifiers=A" I have tried, yet the attempts are
still coming in (duplicates deleted):

Jan 9 12:28:13 mail saslauthd[1930]: : auth failure: [user=trangtry]
[service=smtp] [realm=barrett.com.au] [mech=pam] [reason=PAM auth error]
Jan 9 12:55:45 mail saslauthd[1933]: : auth failure: [user=business]
[service=smtp] [realm=barrett.com.au] [mech=pam] [reason=PAM auth error]
Jan 9 13:00:16 mail saslauthd[1929]: : auth failure:
[user=barrykennedy] [service=smtp] [realm=barrett.com.au] [mech=pam]
[reason=PAM auth error]
Jan 9 13:27:53 mail saslauthd[1930]: : auth failure: [user=psf]
[service=smtp] [realm=barrett.com.au] [mech=pam] [reason=PAM auth error]
Jan 9 13:36:06 mail saslauthd[1933]: : auth failure: [user=scr]
[service=smtp] [realm=barrett.com.au] [mech=pam] [reason=PAM auth error]

The important bits in the sendmail.mc file:

define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `p')
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 PLAIN')
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 PLAIN')
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Addr=101.0.102.2, Port=smtp,
Name=MTA-barrett.com.au, Modifiers=A')
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Addr=127.0.0.1, Port=smtp,
Name=MTA-localhost, Modifiers=A')
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Addr=101.0.102.2, Port=smtps,
Name=MTA-SSL-barrett.com.au, Modifiers=s')

versions:
cyrus-sasl.x86_64 2.1.27-6.el8_5
sendmail.x86_64 8.15.2-34.el8

Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25
From: Claus Aßmann
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Organization: MGT Consulting
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 06:55 UTC
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From: INVALID_NO_CC_REMOVE_IF_YOU_DO_NOT_POST_ml+sendmail(-no-copies-please)@esmtp.org (Claus Aßmann)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on
port 25
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 01:55:15 -0500 (EST)
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Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:

> Since the discovery of "Modifiers=A" I have tried, yet the attempts are

> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Addr=101.0.102.2, Port=smtp,
> Name=MTA-barrett.com.au, Modifiers=A')

You can easily check it yourself:

telnet 101.0.102.2 25
wait for greeting
EHLO your.host

$ telnet 101.0.102.2 25
220 mail.barrett.com.au ESMTP SMTP
ehlo my.host
250-barrett.com.au Hello ....
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE 360000000
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP
AUTH Login asb
503 5.3.3 AUTH not available

Seems to work as expected.

Hence the AUTH attempts are on a different port or from something else.

> sendmail.x86_64 8.15.2-34.el8

Pretty old?

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Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:36 UTC
References: 1 2
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication
attempts on port 25
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:36:17 +0100
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On 09.01.2025 01:55 Uhr Claus Aßmann wrote:

> > sendmail.x86_64 8.15.2-34.el8
>
> Pretty old?

The version that is being shipped with RHEL8.
el8 indicates that.

RHEL users want old versions. :-)

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25
From: Jobst Schmalenbach
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail, comp.mail.mutt
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 23:18 UTC
References: 1 2
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From: jobst@barrett.com.au (Jobst Schmalenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.mutt
Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts
on port 25
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:18:57 +1100
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On 09/01/2025 17:55, Claus Aßmann wrote:
> Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
>
>> Since the discovery of "Modifiers=A" I have tried, yet the attempts are
>
>> sendmail.x86_64 8.15.2-34.el8
>
> Pretty old?
>

This is one of my bigger servers (i.e. many services) running AlmaLinux8
.... difficult to "upgrade" it every time a new Alma version arrives.

Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts on port 25
From: Jobst Schmalenbach
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 23:19 UTC
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From: jobst@barrett.com.au (Jobst Schmalenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: DAEMON_OPTIONS with Modifiers=A but still authentication attempts
on port 25
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On 10/01/2025 3:36, Marco Moock wrote:
> On 09.01.2025 01:55 Uhr Claus Aßmann wrote:
>
>>> sendmail.x86_64 8.15.2-34.el8
>
> RHEL users want old versions. :-)

Not really ;-)

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