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Hahah, as someone with extensive experience of being banned by various
CoC-waving Python online communities' authorities I really enjoyed the
saga. Watching little men grasp for power on the Web to squash their
opponents never stops to amuse me.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 4:56 PM Michael Torrie via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
> On 8/13/24 3:24 AM, Robin Becker via Python-list wrote:
> > I am clearly one of the troglodytes referred to in recent discussions around the PSF. I've been around in python land
> > for far too long, my eyesight fails etc etc.
> >
> > I feel strongly that a miscarriage of justice has been made in the 3-month banning of a famous python developer from
> > some areas of discourse.
> >
> > I have had my share of disagreements with others in the past and have been sometimes violent or disrespectful in emails.
> >
> > I might have been in the kill list of some, but never banned from any mailing lists.
> >
> > Honest dialogue is much better than imposed silence.
> >
> > -- grumblingly-yrs --
> > Robin Becker
>
> Agreed. Here's a good summary of the issue:
> https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-shameful-defenestration-of-tim
>
> The PSF has really screwed this up. Really embarrassing, frankly. And
> sad.
>
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Subject: Re: troglodytes
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On 8/13/24 19:21, Left Right wrote:
> Hahah, as someone with extensive experience of being banned by various
> CoC-waving Python online communities' authorities I really enjoyed the
> saga. Watching little men grasp for power on the Web to squash their
> opponents never stops to amuse me.
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 4:56 PM Michael Torrie via Python-list
> <python-list@python.org> wrote:
>>
Why do you have to belittle other people?

Subject: Re: troglodytes
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> Why do you have to belittle other people?

Who says I have to? I like to! I like to see people driven by all
sorts of low and reprehensible motives being punished for it. I don't
know if I need to explain this motivation further. I think it's a very
natural feeling. Human nature if you will. The primordial sense of
justice, that was later developed into a bunch of different theories
of how justice might work.

Subject: Re: troglodytes
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On 8/14/24 15:19, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>On 8/14/24 13:26, geodandw via Python-list wrote:

>> Why do you have to belittle other people?

> Who says I have to? I like to! I like to see people driven by all
> sorts of low and reprehensible motives being punished for it. I don't
> know if I need to explain this motivation further. I think it's a very
> natural feeling. Human nature if you will. The primordial sense of
> justice, that was later developed into a bunch of different theories
> of how justice might work.

It is not necessary to belittle in order to enjoy justice.

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~Ethan~

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