Rocksolid Light

News from da outaworlds

mail  files  register  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Today is National Existential Ennui Awareness Day.

comp / comp.lang.python / Re: it's a shame... python error over error

SubjectAuthor
* it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
+* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
|`- Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
+* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorBarry
|`* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
| `- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
+* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorPeter J. Holzer
|`* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
| +- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorChris Angelico
| `- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
+- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
+* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
|+- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorPeter J. Holzer
|+- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorGrant Edwards
|`- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
`* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
 `* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
  +* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorChris Angelico
  |`* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
  | +- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorChris Angelico
  | `* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
  |  `* Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
  |   +- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorChris Angelico
  |   `- Re: it's a shame... python error over error (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)Lawrence D'Oliveiro
  +* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
  |+- Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
  |`- Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
  +- Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
  +* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorChris Angelico
  |`- Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968
  `* Re: it's a shame... python error over errorMichael Torrie
   `- Re: it's a shame... python error over erroraotto1968

Pages:12
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
From: Michael Torrie
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 18:33 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: torriem@gmail.com (Michael Torrie)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 11:33:29 -0700
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <mailman.36.1735238014.2912.python-list@python.org>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<938ad572-1a5c-6395-5b16-0373eb0373e0@gmail.com>
<CAPTjJmofJ2KmJVewwtdaviX_YvjtzJ5uADfnJe0BTZc=L1aDew@mail.gmail.com>
<0c9e650c-1789-ff47-cf5d-ee319d19602f@gmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Eb8JwGDaVdmX0jOjvIE/CggZwdAvq1NkPiIUW+6FFIBQ==
Cancel-Lock: sha1:qrysqGpFis4Tud22dmai8E3qHIY= sha256:lsEclyvzvISJ6u12KF62KgIUtyvIypYwaDXPKb9kSAY=
Return-Path: <torriem@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass
reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key"
header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=Va6KB2L/;
dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'absolute': 0.05;
'libraries.': 0.07; 'subject:error': 0.07; 'angelico': 0.09;
'received:mail-pl1-x634.google.com': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.10;
'that.': 0.15; 'paths': 0.16; 'right.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16;
'python': 0.16; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.18; 'pm,': 0.19;
'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; 'chris': 0.28; 'header:User-Agent:1':
0.30; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34;
'from:addr:gmail.com': 0.34; 'definitely': 0.35; 'built': 0.36;
'using': 0.37; 'received:192.168': 0.37; 'way': 0.38; "that's":
0.39; 'appears': 0.40; 'happen': 0.40; 'his': 0.65; 'exactly':
0.68; 'major': 0.78; 'subject:over': 0.84
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1735238011; x=1735842811; darn=python.org;
h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to
:content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id
:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=nonIjmja6fY9PtZ9SRABWWu1E/Vq4Nm7rcvhl4Bfmlk=;
b=Va6KB2L/8vPaoXdJ8PQNogz8OStMfsrarzmKvpwcZbzSW+iPiWme/EGDV0CCHhkSX5
laNKt4cQBY4Vjvy2YXp/hVjvDYK9b1bKiUqK5F6uH6PfaDrpsAqiPbComXl5Avpqs5FB
dCRt1pMBL+bBjE7zfLWTp7Uj/400MH/goHZNDK6pj9/qzFOSGeQ51gWx3FGCvYnv6C3e
87JmFPjCE+2SyGGfP6XxwBHb1D3xiNM+xo/3/bZCQcznY9ZL49a0vVh+RBs7juvhWt3l
ZLA4M21qMsEuMFlVxp6SR17AfXYz/ADorZvb/dABptSNeusdjniHemeZ0qPDsdOvhzf2
RH3w==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1735238011; x=1735842811;
h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to
:content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id
:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=nonIjmja6fY9PtZ9SRABWWu1E/Vq4Nm7rcvhl4Bfmlk=;
b=AuayiBT9c8ZhFC4LkGTEkG4bEpscDsjHiyXl0g7z7guX8B9kQ5ynMzl+lrXdPc+TL9
vwoEOYu9JNU0LRg1hjaDTDTmAVe8gzXh/rLfQxTtWnIfNGDqpK3XL9yIBAtIJfZGku77
VpnlQfAjX+rxnGL+awOd1fkBDgoZXIV/KnGjKB6LwryTtRDR4vLSHaS9LrmTOfbFNhGa
e1KyP5Jkc+sOwUGVK1NMkc+g500GMLiREXgiXxRHcDwT+VIOZQUssr1R5kGl/+IYopLH
OlH+aBdlBznbOB2eAu2P6kns+B8SPl3uM2TUZCUXlkVoTAaSGYj6ifcLt95Gu9oF8tRE
NL8w==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNwkKJpwj7wCoKOQ57kePxLrFb+0Pdo+ymLuC2agvI775mvuOU
xBJOJWB+q8e2FwZRDXDAuYcZmGizfbBfp+VbEZtKzCSAqofQekFPpsVJ3VYw
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsCx7XWnfDR21PFl5Ta14T+AyCGNhHuvvxRjK14c1punY4UgSk3lz4wo0j4QbA
lV/6nRRiKGCrF/fYcCDQxUXOtgav5Z3Cd+Nk1tMKYviOfPv5PxnVYyLKrDn2hl3j2HwGjXxBNjA
hnEqmksPiKnGW42Mj3qhatOIy/y1H9eUigDwpz8El3BIBLCWYFgqhT4fEUQAm3CqRAl/aC+i1q5
fnyB2BgtlRQAECI3iB2VlGs6pdIKNJmPzPBGFI0TSOg722y53iYvdMikp0PCQ==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGNPsjfdjVtuCivrUdIqpjB4fUEll+1tB5AuFO3NO54pV74VVH/QWqfJTJTw/obo+RzdyM52g==
X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:f706:b0:216:30f9:93db with SMTP id
d9443c01a7336-219e6cc2705mr122954245ad.0.1735238011409;
Thu, 26 Dec 2024 10:33:31 -0800 (PST)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.15.1
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmofJ2KmJVewwtdaviX_YvjtzJ5uADfnJe0BTZc=L1aDew@mail.gmail.com>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language
<python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <0c9e650c-1789-ff47-cf5d-ee319d19602f@gmail.com>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<938ad572-1a5c-6395-5b16-0373eb0373e0@gmail.com>
<CAPTjJmofJ2KmJVewwtdaviX_YvjtzJ5uADfnJe0BTZc=L1aDew@mail.gmail.com>
View all headers

On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using
> absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so
> the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to libraries.

You're right. Definitely appears to be a pretty major mis-configuration
of his system. Not much we can do about that.

Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
From: aotto1968
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 06:46 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: aotto1968@t-online.de (aotto1968)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 07:46:56 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <vklih0$3fdin$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<938ad572-1a5c-6395-5b16-0373eb0373e0@gmail.com>
<CAPTjJmofJ2KmJVewwtdaviX_YvjtzJ5uADfnJe0BTZc=L1aDew@mail.gmail.com>
<0c9e650c-1789-ff47-cf5d-ee319d19602f@gmail.com>
<mailman.36.1735238014.2912.python-list@python.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 07:46:57 +0100 (CET)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="96c74d84669393a93cd7b8bb7d84c595";
logging-data="3651159"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18J3F/mWa+sirAgFeFribOIDpB0c6xAPBw="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:3lYt4T44LT9TpMdw63RhxI0qpxk=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <mailman.36.1735238014.2912.python-list@python.org>
View all headers

On 26.12.24 19:33, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using
>> absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so
>> the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to libraries.
>
> You're right. Definitely appears to be a pretty major mis-configuration
> of his system. Not much we can do about that.
>

no, your are wrong.

The problem is NOT that my user-account has a miss-configuration because my
user-account works pretty well…

The problem is that the *default* /usr/bin/python3 OpenSUSE installation using
parts of *my* local *user* setup.

Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
From: Chris Angelico
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 06:10 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: rosuav@gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:10:18 +1100
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <mailman.42.1735539032.2912.python-list@python.org>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmoqET+CwqKNOCkbk0egh3__kVNiDQ++zTRKFx40OnA89A@mail.gmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de GPcuS41CHEV29mUXZEA9yAjCzlsREX10gIyf3UX49B2Q==
Cancel-Lock: sha1:yRwGiwHbFhuUgQGd3G4xbqES2B4= sha256:YLi3fdxkVZE9Z6QhVEhgHlgzQENo7jo7xQ31tsM3jOU=
Return-Path: <rosuav@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass
reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key"
header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=W3Hi637e;
dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:error': 0.07;
'python.': 0.08; 'attempts': 0.09; 'received:mail-
lf1-x134.google.com': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.10; 'chrisa':
0.16; 'dll': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris
angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'python': 0.16; 'to:addr:python-
list': 0.20; 'saying': 0.25; 'dec': 0.31; 'message-
id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.31; 'python-list': 0.32; 'but': 0.32;
'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34;
'from:addr:gmail.com': 0.34; 'mon,': 0.36; 'use': 0.39; 'this,':
0.39; 'try': 0.40; 'capable': 0.64; 'touch': 0.65; 'subject:over':
0.84
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1735539029; x=1736143829; darn=python.org;
h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version
:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=x/g6ME74Iq6jzpnUhkntksbD5ipbOTZLwNII/mLPow4=;
b=W3Hi637eTXdfwT58XWadfnykMPlebywrn1I+Hwch779GDnZl2fzciWz9CW/1TBKFm7
iRpmghwkoPeXVpfhnVce7MeF+PiDW5nfBjUlIbFM/E8qVVdPSIj5SPv9rMpSxG1L21rK
/xbVj6toDZggK5Cob7BqiSA5SmCZlJrwXo2zYzKbWQvubFFVUlr2NBoJuz+mH7/OwVXf
tY4VKvT5u+dR8Df8BEQGSdmYJAHyJ6TZSG3+UWeCbHlMIodJ8J/JsuOPWkMdKvovi2jS
fTjnJSF2npEnSLbkS0kOl+gWRozeG+QfBdG50MlYORu72zdgUbfRz+pWHbwxqtguBcm5
gSHA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1735539029; x=1736143829;
h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version
:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=x/g6ME74Iq6jzpnUhkntksbD5ipbOTZLwNII/mLPow4=;
b=Iw5GKVljiUYC3wZUsLAPlq6hd/10vOjGdKfVCCxI7zimDsebjwbgHxdjgwwx3Y3Saa
8FPYtF+O60MKctzNPynI0beXYXqPJLZVyBDyf05inkLlf4EwDlefS6MiFtqwATkwKffu
xsVmOUNcjuDqWx0+MjSSvx4cRCHwue5BIklSioauzTlAdaMX0VEo3p40x3YvmE9NL3D/
1cOtDvrYPFu1UMEnzaKm1SBVq2aDtxdl5upp01qP/EneSVYnsYqrffbRcEIHVZCnjqFa
yvZO0tyGmhBWrV+i9IGwuxTBfMV++t2KjNWxcDXG3aicmx+mugXeYvgEdIjFlLS+nN9+
0HDA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxlhbQKtu9xWP3bcD8wH9NWPG/xXaKl6LI3LOTVIj4iSNs/aWsv
tH5Gc30aqbo+mKt6QjsPBwjhsveFmbcPapMf7YQB54swnVvVIznE+ujB3P4fxc0zDAwvQl/8Wpz
6S4jmDdyxr+hoHb8Ni5niuqmCeHFQyg==
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuiXRGkw6dGEf9bbYIUnWjaDqHczUlxvynmUzMKA+e97J0AkJnhBG5sBGiAK2M
bdWhPxNqn26RR2Sta9PRJkJ1d8Yn8Ww7M/JU4F+jXC2o=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE8EK64SFeIa4HedtQp8Oq8SPx1UCPh8Sd4dKRjZydU4x7SJ5HaxraF4CwiC6NqDqLbZNdVPIgedw9vNMBQLko=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:6512:b0:542:297f:4dff with SMTP id
2adb3069b0e04-542297f4f37mr7957480e87.8.1735539029333; Sun, 29 Dec 2024
22:10:29 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language
<python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <CAPTjJmoqET+CwqKNOCkbk0egh3__kVNiDQ++zTRKFx40OnA89A@mail.gmail.com>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
View all headers

On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 at 15:02, aotto1968 via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>
> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> sqalite3.

You keep saying this, but do you even know what "make install" does?

Are you capable of admitting that you were wrong, or are you going to
keep digging this hole?

ChrisA

Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
From: Michael Torrie
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:29 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: torriem@gmail.com (Michael Torrie)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 10:29:12 -0700
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <mailman.43.1735579757.2912.python-list@python.org>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
<df970c09-161b-e46a-9f31-c78d9977580f@gmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de QStx4VzvRvhKM/4DvjXPBQUOB6oKVMbDMgxaaFHPPUQw==
Cancel-Lock: sha1:Yi8D7DFSMLWDI4ESd8vramEzKQY= sha256:YWR3NCBnPclppWulEcSW860cRdK7SVCzc8uOadxtYDA=
Return-Path: <torriem@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass
reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key"
header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=gNQ1SLih;
dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'modules': 0.07;
'subject:error': 0.07; 'python.': 0.08; 'attempts': 0.09;
'mechanism': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.10; 'dll': 0.16; 'wrote:':
0.16; 'python': 0.16; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.18; 'libraries':
0.19; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; 'install': 0.23; 'binary':
0.26; 'local': 0.27; 'environment': 0.29; 'header:User-Agent:1':
0.30; 'am,': 0.31; 'python-list': 0.32; 'header:In-Reply-To:1':
0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'from:addr:gmail.com': 0.34;
'received:192.168': 0.37; 'use': 0.39; 'try': 0.40; 'sorry': 0.60;
'load': 0.62; 'your': 0.64; 'touch': 0.65; 'subject:over': 0.84
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1735579754; x=1736184554; darn=python.org;
h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to
:content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id
:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=wZHiw4axEiUR6qXXl4ALPhXhEAQnooh6KUUfDcfrDxQ=;
b=gNQ1SLihQ1o9lYcckYBINrh01KZhOINvtr0sH43B6sFWRw3PTkPAEY9UYb7MlXI0mR
x8aE7aKOlJjW3C8QLq4QvaHMnGL8ugbGKeqNwkezVbjOJEUQqSxQf1X8hsHRlN75Mo2i
s1Txv/wcmdVChkYbMVmiA3X9JKEWV0+epxfuycsYjMtdwGGC+Wftp5S9k9tvEU+QJjbH
nVyLXLdUL6azBwMZV3wbZRgEsuZPuAfD2NVpiFwvllzMvWrFVf7vrO1cd806N0t9WCx4
crVuL4sSE64eevzMn2VOgs6FgAbv7otd9q0kuAy68x5dt3zZVLGdkiM+NQkfauBLrzu5
bi2Q==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1735579754; x=1736184554;
h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to
:content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id
:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=wZHiw4axEiUR6qXXl4ALPhXhEAQnooh6KUUfDcfrDxQ=;
b=UAwJwtqplfRyD0/dWufdxWj6zBfXH1AtXx6eD6c16ZRqBjKuiSGlFgcPgw8aKmauWR
zoIeFxOiY0h+mjU9sVI7ajpstxp7b+opDvIfom+VXOjhjW/kf7NptRFhkDtXkQNRMOlU
4s0aGxdasD1WeWlXkSNJmlkgeSn+34iaWW4FNMMDkrVLTLPVkevb7XKixvzw3WJoNjFU
iKayLUw0FlS6X7ru0+MQDs7pQARllfHuujV4Fr4Aw2r9hdQ1j3jgXRry6zYv5BVwa8Hu
So8rayVIEoUzrOv8eDD5CiT6boIYoy/3W6UA+g+5Mzs010uhFhR60bySOQ6v+kPeOa1n
L6GA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwJ3Tv57Wk+jBbrjRONMXl9+KHlJorAxHLX62sUODsBVK/mWGhB
fw99trNxfzHStbBfWDiETnOoazpW77HdFRgucyO44+SEkLe0K4CgTZI2WM9L
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuC0TPKYYu44047UYsgahk0cNPyVEhWjJwlic4AGJt/HZl20c6neUaHk98dd1k
i+NUUES9l2Cmyu8i4VDfnippCMg1d3PIKDLVAxIWuyJmzTLsR+hc+vSXwqEx6ysRxTF11q9v7Fk
5C8auB4D9yvy0ca0uvD6CCegCsRXo6JHjkKkpcyp6xOWqexQbjHISSFX95O9pT71cKOuLLiN8Zw
R4ZefLO8Ly3SJL2gakSRkth1JzUfUj6++6FWLezVp8Zdjw1lasfSETVpUBrHg==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGd9PkgkEYIgNSLxMBkimTzRzTJSHGfJzRkvL0ZRA/XeROppLCBVh36iIGishXmjfjz6lkP2w==
X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:f54e:b0:215:b75f:a1d8 with SMTP id
d9443c01a7336-219e6e881b3mr199537695ad.2.1735579753992;
Mon, 30 Dec 2024 09:29:13 -0800 (PST)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.15.1
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language
<python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <df970c09-161b-e46a-9f31-c78d9977580f@gmail.com>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
View all headers

On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> sorry you don't understand the problem…
>
> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>
> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> sqalite3.

The *only* mechanism that would cause the system python binary to try to
load modules and libraries from your local install is your environment
(environment variables).

Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
From: aotto1968
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 22:16 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: aotto1968@t-online.de (aotto1968)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 23:16:24 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <vl9njo$3i3c$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
<df970c09-161b-e46a-9f31-c78d9977580f@gmail.com>
<mailman.43.1735579757.2912.python-list@python.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 23:16:25 +0100 (CET)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bfcf6e41a8af79f2f3416b784180c3ca";
logging-data="116844"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18UOsNF2JpYxc2N9lUU5Rw6NIy8WBAjN/g="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:Kq/93O7OSZ7a4JPUTZCvxq9Eq8o=
In-Reply-To: <mailman.43.1735579757.2912.python-list@python.org>
Content-Language: en-US
View all headers

On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
>> sorry you don't understand the problem…
>>
>> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>>
>> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
>> sqalite3.
>
> The *only* mechanism that would cause the system python binary to try to
> load modules and libraries from your local install is your environment
> (environment variables).
>

that is right because MY environment variable point to MY local user stuff.

The CORE problem is that OpenSUSE (Linux) python use MY env.

If I call a OS feature like "cnf" this should NOT interact with my private user stuff.

the OpenSUSE do it right because OpenSUSE use /usr/bin/python in "cnf" BUT the
python think to interact with MY env.

To make it short: The OS python will NEVER proper work if LOCAL user stuff is used.

Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
From: Chris Angelico
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 22:25 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: rosuav@gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 09:25:19 +1100
Lines: 40
Message-ID: <mailman.51.1735943134.2912.python-list@python.org>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
<df970c09-161b-e46a-9f31-c78d9977580f@gmail.com>
<mailman.43.1735579757.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vl9njo$3i3c$1@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmrZ5L-yGx3UetjH4KMsbusTv6eY+cyqZLnhr1QBCoh2fA@mail.gmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de fEScwKKOVTjBvYcWlwW2Zg0upoIVqX80nB3uwpeinKgw==
Cancel-Lock: sha1:V+fw/qGTVGv5gLP4NtrYOXlD78g= sha256:ugAdJN+l8oYV2HePVmjeo1VKuTMXsLhCyrjUDdgslKY=
Return-Path: <rosuav@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass
reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key"
header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=CNzZfr/0;
dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'variable': 0.05;
'modules': 0.07; 'subject:error': 0.07; 'used.': 0.07; 'python.':
0.08; 'attempts': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'mechanism':
0.09; 'subject:python': 0.10; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.14;
'2025': 0.16; 'chrisa': 0.16; 'dll': 0.16; 'enough,': 0.16;
'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16;
'refuse': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'problem': 0.16; 'python': 0.16;
'instead': 0.17; 'libraries': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20;
'maybe': 0.22; 'sat,': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'stuff': 0.25;
'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'tried': 0.26; 'binary': 0.26; 'interact': 0.26;
'local': 0.27; 'environment': 0.29; 'think': 0.29; 'am,': 0.31;
'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.31; 'python-list': 0.32; 'but':
0.32; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34;
'core': 0.34; 'from:addr:gmail.com': 0.34; 'this.': 0.35; "we're":
0.35; 'people': 0.36; 'use': 0.39; 'explain': 0.40; 'try': 0.40;
'should': 0.40; 'michael': 0.60; 'sorry': 0.60; 'load': 0.62;
'your': 0.64; 'charge': 0.64; 'touch': 0.65; 'right': 0.68;
'skip:/ 10': 0.69; 'you.': 0.70; 'private': 0.73; "you'll": 0.73;
'subject:over': 0.84
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1735943132; x=1736547932; darn=python.org;
h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from
:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date
:message-id:reply-to;
bh=v/uHHxnz2ZzcnFn0oTkGBlTkpo0NQvZIK1Pv1VvhzVY=;
b=CNzZfr/0ktn7aWNoYCJCnQTTqglOfKNazbYyG603PbfBgAN2sJQfTguN69g8cKfZMD
8rmznxPXWa+XWxgPppz/2zwGsXNewQF6XRF2sJEDZ3GbREslXuGN40Nga6Y1xh1Q+GUr
CRotOX78+oQPw27LfE0+eNqfe1Xb9OT1RjJyYt3vIglnOqvyYWJ2a/LsI2JCKs5cN3KU
OwonndJAp/qTkVcCfH6vlF8DfyDx2gn0bOCj2+Z2vGIfG3MUvfLlL/KsjzCI1moe28qK
cJ3Tw2jv9MoEosFb5xcGiXohOvz4arF4AFe2z0iwZl0CAtMDQPIoGPWSJN9Mnns+4aO8
t6FQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1735943132; x=1736547932;
h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from
:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc
:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=v/uHHxnz2ZzcnFn0oTkGBlTkpo0NQvZIK1Pv1VvhzVY=;
b=FyWqKnzRESMvxQPvVAkLwxGHVXeJx5A8/fht4rCx8GPK6hKyEJUL9gS4dGuXcO5AEv
J012BPIpGyYmO4nAbL4eryswCzRNTxNgSUlb4whBPmFoVVC2iCDP4AQGXjHLrjtxNV5k
i1iiYJ1ECFTwNzSs5jNZD0M4ZlWBNSNqai3WHsmRPjIInFJnKXwgqksqGNHKfDmBHTcw
6xAxWwsmPVEHFhqnVQLrm2pjJi1t25NBXxAC9d7tMiUs8c/ALsBRczFObiBUmap4jlHW
Ksaa8q/N6RQrDdhfKPrN43ThvfK9ZXbtzJgDoyDsizlGQNvFpmrWCmOg9XqY95RlFOgE
a0Pg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyeYsk5q/QCCKwmNi/74Fz3tZn+QN6GLslrHQ+nbLeSqOkwSzU/
Hpr+PIX0/oeJD3gZdhWtLXAS68LICrEuYeQLoXhDWpPEYkoXdzSHyTyo6/j9JU9ZgoNrwNwrgRG
5k8lAtK5Y7H08GzLvd2lAy9F3vA0=
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuqf4MdjIA2jlI1jblJr7MG2VbTjwtv9xan2QeO8wqZtoCxIysX/t+tXqsLAkS
szuJ2O8Z9DNnIZRsMhmfDNiOQAiQqbQgRvg992bburGg=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH3QuP7aTW5FvBUJkS8AQK/EHcMxKK8e/MbFz11Ckaci/My+Df2GqBmthPwLimN9QtxCAte6krSSW5Bmnz5UWE=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:114f:b0:540:1d37:e6e with SMTP id
2adb3069b0e04-542295434f9mr16910728e87.33.1735943132071; Fri, 03 Jan 2025
14:25:32 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <vl9njo$3i3c$1@dont-email.me>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language
<python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <CAPTjJmrZ5L-yGx3UetjH4KMsbusTv6eY+cyqZLnhr1QBCoh2fA@mail.gmail.com>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
<df970c09-161b-e46a-9f31-c78d9977580f@gmail.com>
<mailman.43.1735579757.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vl9njo$3i3c$1@dont-email.me>
View all headers

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 09:22, aotto1968 via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
> On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> >> sorry you don't understand the problem…
> >>
> >> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
> >>
> >> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> >> sqalite3.
> >
> > The *only* mechanism that would cause the system python binary to try to
> > load modules and libraries from your local install is your environment
> > (environment variables).
> >
>
> that is right because MY environment variable point to MY local user stuff.
>
> The CORE problem is that OpenSUSE (Linux) python use MY env.
>
> If I call a OS feature like "cnf" this should NOT interact with my private user stuff.
>
> the OpenSUSE do it right because OpenSUSE use /usr/bin/python in "cnf" BUT the
> python think to interact with MY env.
>
> To make it short: The OS python will NEVER proper work if LOCAL user stuff is used.

People have tried in vain to explain this to you. You refuse to
listen. Go and argue with your OS instead of us; we're not the ones in
charge of this. Maybe if you argue enough, you'll start to understand
what "make install" does.

ChrisA

Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 23:17 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: it's a shame... python error over error (Posting On Python-List
Prohibited)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 23:17:26 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 7
Message-ID: <vl9r65$484n$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vjh2mh$3bu1o$1@dont-email.me> <vkgote$2c59o$1@dont-email.me>
<vkgpqk$2c59o$2@dont-email.me>
<CAPTjJmq_tUSnxgSxbKTZ7gfWHG3qf9VKWki7-ehYfhpsvObpvA@mail.gmail.com>
<mailman.31.1735167344.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vkj0uj$2s8i6$1@dont-email.me>
<df970c09-161b-e46a-9f31-c78d9977580f@gmail.com>
<mailman.43.1735579757.2912.python-list@python.org>
<vl9njo$3i3c$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 00:17:26 +0100 (CET)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1ee0f616641d8aa5c39c6c84e5fd9339";
logging-data="139415"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Rd53gTxZUcbG3ly6mR7dg"
User-Agent: Pan/0.161 (Chasiv Yar; )
Cancel-Lock: sha1:jAiJixqYQZBfgkCednbdLeNiVvM=
View all headers

On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 23:16:24 +0100, aotto1968 wrote:

> The CORE problem is that OpenSUSE (Linux) python use MY env.

It can only do what you tell it to do.

Don’t tell it to do that, then.

Pages:12

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor