WHat editor do people use these days? any favorites? i still use emacs;
i have tried atom and vscode but could not get the REPL server right.

Does anyone know what kind of interface do they need? I feel like
someone is going to say JSON.

it would be nice in kate to open a lisp terminal like the regular
terminal it comes with. I am inspired by this. it is almost like commint
mode. maybe an emacs server could work?

I don't know much about vscode studio or atom; but interested. how well
do they work for C or is everything java these days...

steve <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:

> WHat editor do people use these days? any favorites? i still use emacs;

I still use the GNU EMACS.

> i have tried atom and vscode but could not get the REPL server right.

VSCode and all the others are not as easy to understand as the GNU
EMACS. With the GNU EMACS, you can read the code of the bit you're
interested in and figure out exactly what it does. The GNU EMACS makes
even a system like Windows usable.

VSCode has a huge community, but we need editors for a lifetime. Huge
communities come and go.

Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:

> steve <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> WHat editor do people use these days? any favorites? i still use emacs;
>
> I still use the GNU EMACS.

Same here.

Emacs was in fact one reason to learn Lisp. Once I did that I became a
more confident tweaker (.emacs/init.el) and a more compentent user.

> we need editors for a lifetime

Yes! With almost 30 years of use, I have over time incorporated a lot of
advanced things into my daily routine, so for me the editor has become
more powerful than in my beginnings, simply because I use more features
of this power tool. Tools need to be mastered, and, in order to be worth
the time put into mastering them, they need to be powerful tools.

https://emacsnyc.org/2014/08/11/the-editor-of-a-lifetime.html

Best regards

Axel

On 5/29/2024 6:34 PM, steve wrote:
>
>
> WHat editor do people use these days? any favorites? i still use emacs;
> i have tried atom and vscode but could not get the REPL server right.
>
> Does anyone know what kind of interface do they need? I feel like
> someone is going to say JSON.
>
> it would be nice in kate to open a lisp terminal like the regular
> terminal it comes with. I am inspired by this. it is almost like commint
> mode. maybe an emacs server could work?
>
> I don't know much about vscode studio or atom; but interested. how well
> do they work for C or is everything java these days...

Vim does fine with Python and Lisp (Scheme).

On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:05:38 -0700, HenHanna wrote:

> Vim does fine with Python and Lisp (Scheme).

The thing with Vim is, there are so many Vims, and Neovims, and Vis, and
Gvims, and what all to choose from. And they are all subtly different ...
and incompatible.

On 2024-05-30, Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> wrote:
> steve <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> WHat editor do people use these days? any favorites? i still use emacs;
>
> I still use the GNU EMACS.

Indeed, why would anyone want to move away from Emacs?

>> i have tried atom and vscode but could not get the REPL server right.
>
> VSCode and all the others are not as easy to understand as the GNU
> EMACS. With the GNU EMACS, you can read the code of the bit you're
> interested in and figure out exactly what it does. The GNU EMACS makes
> even a system like Windows usable.
>
> VSCode has a huge community, but we need editors for a lifetime. Huge
> communities come and go.

+1

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Rode Macht van Roodkapje is wetenschappelijk onderzocht en
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In comp.editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:05:38 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
>
>> Vim does fine with Python and Lisp (Scheme).
>
> The thing with Vim is, there are so many Vims, and Neovims, and Vis, and
> Gvims, and what all to choose from. And they are all subtly different ...
> and incompatible.

I use Vim and I don't have any problem with the other that I don't use, just
choose one and use it. Besides the core commands are the same, the others just
add something but never change the base.

G

In article <lbtlnaFmerlU1@mid.individual.net>, G <g@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>In comp.editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:05:38 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
>>
>>> Vim does fine with Python and Lisp (Scheme).
>>
>> The thing with Vim is, there are so many Vims, and Neovims, and Vis, and
>> Gvims, and what all to choose from. And they are all subtly different ...
>> and incompatible.
>
>I use Vim and I don't have any problem with the other that I don't use, just
>choose one and use it. Besides the core commands are the same, the others just
>add something but never change the base.

Vim and GVIM are the same thing - just different looks. Personally, I use
GVIM for everything. Plain VIM (in the terminal) is unusable on the
Raspberry Pi, because the colors are f***ed up. Yes, this is fixable, but
it is not worth the trouble.

As usual, LDO's comments (quoted above) are nonsense.

--
Kenny, I'll ask you to stop using quotes of mine as taglines.

- Rick C Hodgin -

Some entity, AKA Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org>,
wrote this mindboggling stuff:
(selectively-snipped-or-not-p)

> steve <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:

>I still use the GNU EMACS.

Which 'other' editor?

The use of any other editor is concidered pennance by te church of EMACS

--

Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill
defined barely usable re-implementation of half of common-lisp.
'Paraphrased

On Fri, 31 May 2024 11:43:52 -0000 (UTC)
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
> In article <lbtlnaFmerlU1@mid.individual.net>, G <g@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >In comp.editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:05:38 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
> >>
> >>> Vim does fine with Python and Lisp (Scheme).
> >>
> >> The thing with Vim is, there are so many Vims, and Neovims, and Vis, and
> >> Gvims, and what all to choose from. And they are all subtly different ...
> >> and incompatible.
> >
> >I use Vim and I don't have any problem with the other that I don't use, just
> >choose one and use it. Besides the core commands are the same, the others just
> >add something but never change the base.
>
> Vim and GVIM are the same thing - just different looks.

[...]

> As usual, LDO's comments (quoted above) are nonsense.

I second this. There is only 1 vim , 1 neovim , 1 vi .They are all examples
of vi-like editors of which there are several.

On Fri, 31 May 2024 16:59:21 -0000 (UTC), Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> There is only 1 vim , 1 neovim , 1 vi .

Which is the one that uses Lua as its macro language?

On 2024-05-31, Cor <cornews@clsnet.nl> wrote:
> Some entity, AKA Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org>,
> wrote this mindboggling stuff:
> (selectively-snipped-or-not-p)
>
>> steve <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>I still use the GNU EMACS.
>
> Which 'other' editor?

Emacs with evil-mode (*) is as far as anyone should go!

The vi keymappings are useful on mobile devices.

> The use of any other editor is concidered pennance by te church of EMACS

hear! hear!

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