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Subject: Re: Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism
From: In the Name of Jesus
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (In the Name of Jesus)
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Subject: Re: Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 12:43:58 +1000
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On 6/06/2024 12:39 pm, % wrote:
> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>> On 6/06/2024 10:45 am, % wrote:
>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>> On 6/06/2024 10:34 am, % wrote:
>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/06/2024 9:58 am, Creon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 08:39:45 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/06/2024 11:44 pm, Creon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 12:54:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:v3olu3 $q93f$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/06/2024 11:37 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v3o3js$jl52$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/06/2024 3:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:K0w7O.113602$8hl9.81175 @fx03.ams4:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lc7ao9F5p3sU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing happens when we die
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you must face the Judgment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judgment"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Hebrews 9:27
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God has offered to pay all of your debt Himself. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have rejected His offer, you will pay in full ~ yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your destiny:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Then said the king to the servants,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ‘Bind him hand and foot and take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      him away, and cast him into outer darkness: there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      weeping and gnashing of teeth.’"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               ~ Matthew 22:13
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, believe or be dammed. it's the Xtain message. no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Islam, convert or be killed. it's spiritual terrorism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the title of the this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God offers to pay your account in full. And to give you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eternal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life, yet you complain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        God creates you as a sinner but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will forgive this sin if you just worship him properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        That is not absolution it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extortion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you cease from this tunnel vision selfishness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> might actually learn something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> God created us with a choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother
>>>>>>>>>>>> conceived me.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Psalm 51:5
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move you out of the tunnel vision.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, all men were born sinners.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Was there a purpose, was there meaning, was there a point, or
>>>>>>>>>>> did it
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> just happen for a cosmic nothing?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What was the sin? Or, what was wrong? Why did Adam and Eve
>>>>>>>>>>> inevitably
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> what they did? Or, what had to be righted if you wanted it to be
>>>>>>>>>> righted?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        This is your mythology, you tell us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Besides, Ezekiel 18 sort of does away with the (Christian)
>>>>>>>>> concept of
>>>>>>>>> "original sin".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If "Michael" were an honest prophet, he would recognize that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea that an unbaptized infant would face God's dungeon
>>>>>>>>> never made
>>>>>>>>> sense, anyway.  Would a loving God do that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you seen what is happening in the world?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does your post have to do with Ezekiel 18?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God is in charge of everything; everything we understand and
>>>>>> everything we don't understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Lord
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YHWH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is all power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Ezekiel 18 begins:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,
>>>>>>> 2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of
>>>>>>> Israel,
>>>>>>> saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's
>>>>>>> teeth are
>>>>>>> set on edge?
>>>>>>> 3 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any
>>>>>>> more to
>>>>>>> use this proverb in Israel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read it and weep, O spiritual terrorist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like Mitchell, you want a God you can fit in your pocket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are you talking about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about if I said: "Like Robert, you want a God you can ignore."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it wouldn't be true. :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your nymshift means nothing, O spiritual terrorist.
>>>>>>>   _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>>>>>> 19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the
>>>>>>> father? When
>>>>>>> the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept
>>>>>>> all my
>>>>>>> statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
>>>>>>> 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the
>>>>>>> iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the
>>>>>>> iniquity of the
>>>>>>> son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the
>>>>>>> wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
>>>>>>>   _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is aligned with human God-given conscience and reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, sorry to hear about your polyp, glad they caught it in time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am glad it happened, though, but the Lord caught it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure what you are saying about Ezekiel 18, it is your
>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My context is this...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isa 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>>>>>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>>>>> Isa 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>>>>>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there
>>>>>> is none else.
>>>>>> Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>>>>>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything God does is right, even when we don't understand
>>>>>> it—especially so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am content in that, no matter what "evil" we see or what we
>>>>>> think we see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ezekiel saw wheels in the sky
>>>>
>>>> Did you know he saw your potential.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the Name of Jesus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> i don't think we should turn this into something about me
>>
>> Ezekiel was of the same mind.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>>
> yea but he saw wheels in the air

Well, Ezekiel saw things others didn't. It comes with the territory.

In the Name of Jesus
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Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
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Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
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Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
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"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
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"Compromise will condemn you."

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"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

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"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

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"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
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The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
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"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

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"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

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still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
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"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
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