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Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
From: Robert
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 02:08 UTC
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From: robert@no.way (Robert)
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Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 19:08:29 -0700
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On May 3, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article<XnsB167D21391399noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2BE4BF2E00313795305B7438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 2, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article<XnsB166D15CD3092noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.12>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2BE334BA002AD11C30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article<XnsB165D172F3C34noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.13>):
> > > >
> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2BC5B000E9ADB30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > (in article<XnsB16580ACD17F9noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.17>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2AF20000B80FD30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.o
> > > > > > > rg:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Creon wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article <l9eal3Fta0jU2@mid.individual.net>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 25 Apr 2024 16:22:19 GMT, Creon wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:23:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:XnsB15F50CAD7170noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13...
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religious people not agreeing? Even
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fighting?! What gives??
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true religion will exude love, peace,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing and happy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which "true religion" is that?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but always with an eye to obeying the real
> > > > > > > > > > > > > master, Christ."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ephesians 6:5
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Servants don't have masters, they
> > > > > > > > > > > > have employers. These were SLAVES.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Without Jesus you are a slave to sin.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Jesus said,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone
> > > > > > > > > > > who practices sin is a slave to sin."
> > > > > > > > > > > > John 8:34
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
> > > > > > > > Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.†(Jhn
> > > > > > > > 8:34, KJV)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whether you appreciate the understanding or not, every one
> > > > > > > > of you who is employed is a servant/slave/bondsman. You are
> > > > > > > > working for DA Man.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Meh, the 4th Gospel is a bit dodgy, too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Some tortured souls think John 1:1 has to do with the
> > > > > > > > > > Bible itself, and use it to justify their bibidolatry.
> > > > > > > > > > It's a shame they don't know conscience and reason are
> > > > > > > > > > better allies than bad translations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The word teaches that Judaism is all about people who dwell
> > > > > > > > under a contract setup by their forefathers in the
> > > > > > > > wilderness.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is the fallacy of Biblical "law"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No one can be bound to a contract that
> > > > > > > they did not sign.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many times have you been told that they both voted and
> > > > > > signed it. Why are you bound by the laws of the US and the
> > > > > > state and city you live in?
> > > > >
> > > > > The penal code is not a contract.
> >
> > What penal code?
> > You contracted with the state regarding all the vehicular laws when
> > you got your drivers license.
>
> Wrong. You were told what the laws
> were, you signed no contract with the
> state to obey them.

Your submittal to the DMC for a DL included that understanding, and for the
proof of it you took a test to verify your knowledge of the rudimentary laws.

No run along Troll.
>
>
> > You contracted with whomever regarding many other things like CC’s,
> > loans etc.
> > You also voted for penal codes within your state, etc.
>
> Wrong. Penal codes are a product
> of the legislature. Even when the voters
> pass a referendum on criminal laws they
> are not legal until the legislature
> codifies them.
>
> Legislatures and governors are not
> afraid of undermining — or even
> downright repealing — citizen
> initiatives that win at the ballot
> box.
> Jan. 30, 2024
> https://www.governing.com/politics/the-increasing-trend-of-lawmakers-
> overriding-ballot-initiatives
>
> > > > > Contracts have to be agreed to by
> > > > > all parties bound by them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Contract (n)
> > > > > an agreement between two or more
> > > > > parties for the doing or not doing
> > > > > of something specified.
> > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract
> > > >
> > > > Then why would you be fined and possible jail time for breaking
> > > > various Laws?
> > >
> > > Contract laws are not criminal laws
> >
> > Yet you voted for many of them.
>
> A vote is not a contract.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > They are totally separate.
> > >
> > > "Civil law involves people against
> > > people and looks to provide a remedy
> > > for individuals so they can enforce
> > > private rights against other individuals.
> > >
> > > Criminal law on the other hand, is a set
> > > of regulations both enacted and enforced
> > > by government action. This is primarily
> > > why criminal cases are always the defendant
> > > versus the state which the offence
> > > occurred in. Contract law does not feature
> > > within criminal law."
> > > https://jamesonlaw.com.au/commercial-law/contracts/is-contract-law-civ
> > > il- or-criminal/
> >
> > Why then have you voted to accept of deny them?
>
> A vote is not a contract.
>
> A vote is not a criminal law.
>
> Do you remember anything from high school civics?

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By: Mitchell Holman on Fri, 3 May 2024

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