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Subject: Re: What God teaches for today regarding the use of Tongues, and what AI Rosies opinions is.
From: In the Name of Jesus
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On 2/06/2024 10:57 am, Robert wrote:
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> Subject: Let Your Gits Speak For Themselves
> Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 13:21:52 -0500
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> “Therefore tongues are for a sign, not
> to those who believe but to unbelievers;
> but prophesying is not for unbelievers
> but for those who believe.” (1
> Corinthians 14:22, NKJV)
> ********************************************
>
> As anyone can read this is the verse that AI R selects for his stance on
> speaking in tongues. He denies the teachings of the Lord regarding the gifts
> of the Holy Spirit. Especially this one. However, besides the fact that
> scripture commands that we do not forbid the speaking in tongues, ever. Here
> are the instructions given to us all in regards to the gifts of Tongues until
> the time that the Lord sets up His kingdom on earth for the last 1.000 years
> of this planet.
>
> The secrets of the hearts of lost men are also made evident via the use of
> tongues and the interpretation thereof.
>
> 1Co 14:2-40 (KJV)
>
> 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto
> God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh
> mysteries.
>
> 3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation,
> and comfort.
>
> 4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that
> prophesieth edifieth the church.
>
> 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for
> greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he
> interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
>
> 6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I
> profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by
> knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
>
> 7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except
> they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or
> harped?
>
> 8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to
> the battle?
>
> 9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood,
> how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
>
> 10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of
> them is without signification .
>
> 11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that
> speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
>
> 12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye
> may excel to the edifying of the church.
>
> 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may
> interpret.
>
> 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my
> understanding is unfruitful.
>
> 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the
> understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the
> understanding also.
>
> 16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth
> the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he
> understandeth not what thou sayest?
>
> 17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
>
> 18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
>
> 19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding,
> that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in
> anunknown tongue.
>
> 20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye
> children, but in understanding be men.
>
> 21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I
> speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the
> Lord.
>
> 22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them
> that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but
> for them which believe.
>
> 23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all
> speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or
> unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
>
> 24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, orone
> unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
>
> 25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down
> on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
>
> 26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a
> psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an
> interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
>
> 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by
> three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
>
> 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and
> let him speak to himself, and to God.
>
> 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
>
> 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold
> his peace.
>
> 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be
> comforted.
>
> 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
>
> 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches
> of the saints.
>
> 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto
> them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith
> the law.
>
> 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for
> it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
>
> 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
>
> 37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him
> acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the
> Lord.
>
> 38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
>
> 39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with
> tongues.
>
> 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
>
> Now as you can see here, this describes the gift of tongues, its mystery, the
> variety of uses and needs, when and when not to use it, that the use in a
> public gathering is to be in an orderly manner.
>
> Also, as to signs, which it seems that AI R is focused on, in these end times
> of the Church God has told us there will be signs in the skies, in the
> heavens, in the Sun and Moon as well as in the earth. All pointing out to man
> that the end of this age is coming as well as to warn us of the impending
> doom that is to face the whole earth.

Not doom. Redemption.

> It is a shame that any person is Hell bent to destroy the word and works of
> God through men and attempt to display a false narrative in regards to what
> the scripture says. That is not of God, but the surmising of men most

The tongues that you witness are just made up, Robert. Just imagination.

Speaking in tongues is the anointing of the Lord to interpret a person's
heart and to speak into that person's heart the truth of that anointing.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

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