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Subject: Re: Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism
From: Maximus
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From: gladiator@colosseum.rome (Maximus)
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Subject: Re: Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism
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Vincent Maycock wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:58:21 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> On 28/05/2024 2:36 am, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:42:46 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/05/2024 10:29 am, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 09:09:18 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/05/2024 4:02 am, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 May 2024 17:45:49 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/05/2024 5:01 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17DD42C4C3D4629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0261710006C88B30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-septemb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.o rg:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heart with enmity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And God does nothing about that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he hates humanity, could care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less about humanity, is powerless to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is it, do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and eternal life with him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question was about Satan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does God permit him to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "kill and destroy”?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Man did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __God is powerless to stop Satan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __God doesn't care either way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So God is NOT incontrol of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything that happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are other options that you are not aware of.
>>>>>>>>>>> Such as........?
>>>>>>>>>> Your choice as to following Jesus, or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So much for the Divine Plan.....
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
>>>>>>>>>>> Walk thru a pediatric oncology ward
>>>>>>>>>>> and tell us how children dying of cancer
>>>>>>>>>>> are part of a "Divine Plan".
>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think they were? Why do you accuse God in heaven for these
>>>>>>>>>> things instead of the god of this world, Satan? The destroyer/
>>>>>>>>> I think you make this stuff up as you go along. you claim God created
>>>>>>>>> everything, now you say Satan created cancer.
>>>>>>>> That is a valid point.
>>>>>>> Why would God allow Satan to create cancer?
>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>>> Indeed, why did you bring cancer upon yourself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why did you bring about pollution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you think you weren't going to reap what you sow?
>> Vincent wrote:
>>>>> Not me, but the innocent children who get struck down with cancer. Are
>>>>> those children "reaping what they sow"?
>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>> Everything man does effects his neighbour, one way or another, children
>>>> and adults alike.
>>
>>> I know they do -- but should they,
>> How are you going to see how glorious God is if you fail to see how
>> defiled you are and what evil you produce?
> So God can't overcome evil to show his true character?
>
>>> if your god cares for them?
>> Where would the world be if it depended on your understanding of God?
>> Answer: where it is. Lost.
> Theism is a way of being lost, yeah.

yes

>
>> You do not know God's plans or purposes or what He is capable of,
>> Vincent. It is not over till the fat lady sings.
> So you don't have an answer to my arguments. That's fine with me; my
> problem with theists is that they act like they do know, and that they
> do have plausible answers to atheist questions -- when they don't.

yes

>
>> Do you know why hope exists? Because there is something to place your
>> hope in. In atheism is no hope. What does that tell you? That hope is
>> fiction or that atheism is fiction?
> Atheists do have hope, just not in religion. So don't try to hi-jack
> the word "hope" for your theist claims.

hear! hear!

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The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

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the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

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