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Subject: Re: Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism
From: In the Name of Jesus
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (In the Name of Jesus)
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Subject: Re: Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism
Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 20:40:40 +1000
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On 27/05/2024 10:55 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 26, 2024, In the Name of Jesus wrote
> (in article <v30fku$3ldh5$4@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 27/05/2024 5:36 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 26, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>> (in article <XnsB17E56AA0EBED629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>
>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>> news:0001HW.2C02EAF60027039430F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>> (in article <XnsB17DD39B0FF3D629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0265C30007CBBC30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17D856FD386629555@185.151.15.160>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C024C150001C70430F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17D53917EE6F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:v2rn5e $2nfks$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/05/2024 11:28 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salvific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or in any other He may have in store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂ The original post was right, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂ "Do as I tell you or I will kill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - kidnapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂ "Believe as I tell you or suffer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hell" ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - Christianity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xtianity. without
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church
>>>>>>>>>> speaking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the Protestant Church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I should have no compassion on these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witches; I should burn them all."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Luther
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is more to following the rules than this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People must be willing to live in peace together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or there can be no peace for anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religions have never been able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live in peace together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so true!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet more moron sweepings statements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Man has never been able to live in peace together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't Ye Floode supposed to fix that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Lord Jesus Christ fixes the person.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jim Jones, David Koresh, Jim Bakker,
>>>>>>>>>> every Pedophile Priest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have seen what people "fixed by
>>>>>>>>>> Jesus" are like, indeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mat 7:15-17 (KJV)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
>>>>>>>>> clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
>>>>>>>>> thorns, or figs of thistles?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a
>>>>>>>>> corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can see here that there were such men in the time of Jesus,
>>>>>>>>> as he was the one speaking theses words, true of that time,
>>>>>>>>> true of this time and culminating with the time of the
>>>>>>>>> antichrist coming very soon, in the flesh. ATM the spirit of
>>>>>>>>> the antichrist is leading these people and has been since the
>>>>>>>>> days of the Apostles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look at the fruits these people gather. Like minded followers
>>>>>>>>> who speak as foul and vulgar as they do, or practice livings
>>>>>>>>> they do, all the while their leaders are taking advantage of
>>>>>>>>> them, people who are to follow their leader, what he says is
>>>>>>>>> truth, in spite of the fact that a lot of what they say is
>>>>>>>>> contrary to the truth, which can be verified by the story pole
>>>>>>>>> of the Bible. The Word of God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mary Dyer was a follower of mid-wife and religious
>>>>>>>> activist Anne Marbury Hutchinson. Her views about
>>>>>>>> God and religion were considered heresy by the
>>>>>>>> Puritan religion In 1658, a law was passed banishing
>>>>>>>> Quakers under "pain of death." Mary Dyer was executed,
>>>>>>>> hanged for being a Quaker on June 1, 1660.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.womeninhistoryprograms.com/dyer.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is the legacy of the RCC doctrines that carried forward over
>>>>>>> the the fence of the Reformation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christians killing other Christians
>>>>>> for following the "wrong" Christianity.
>>>>>
>>>>> People calling themselves Christian does not make them one, and other
>>>>> who call people a christian, who are not, does not make the person a
>>>>> christian also. Many call others a christian just to slam them or put
>>>>> them in bad light before their fellows.
>>>>
>>>> Who are you to decide what
>>>> a Christian is?
>>
>> Robert Religion wrote:
>>> The word of God does. It describes the true believer and isolated them from
>>> the false pretenders, deluded in their minds and understandings.

In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>> False. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself decides what a Christian is, not a
>> sinner interpreting his bible to suit himself.
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus

Robert Religion wrote:
> The word of God, the Bible, defines sin. Why was it written down? To be a
> story pole for all generations, thus false prophets can be called out for
> their false doctrines. False knowledge and false wisdom.
>
> How many false religions say to put down the Bible and let me explain to you
> what it all means? How many even told the layman that they could not
> comprehend it and to let the priest do it.
>
> How many declare that "MY WAY IS THE CORRECT WAY” Follow my ways, all the
> others are evil and corrupt even to the point of publishing that across
> NG’s, media, or whatever.

You were shown your ways many times but you would not repent.

The Lord Jesus Christ Himself decides what is and what is not.

In the Name of Jesus

>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> That mindset of that religion so fully infected the Truth of Jesus
>>>>>>> Christ that the reformation which began via Luther and others took
>>>>>>> 100’s of years to eradicate from the followers of Christ as their
>>>>>>> minds were not yet renewed to the point where they should have been
>>>>>>> all along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The intolerant Catholics got
>>>>>> replaced by intolerant Protestants,
>>>>>> and both killing in the name of Jesus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Protestant is just a derisive name manufactured by the RCC, as in that
>>>>> day Luther and others were part of the “reformed church”. And like
>>>>> I said, that was the reason for the carry over of bad doctrines and
>>>>> dogma’s.
>>>>
>>>> Who are you decide what is a
>>>> "bad" dogma or "bad" doctrine?
>>>
>>> I have a story pole that delineates the good from the evil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other Christians think YOUR
>>>> doctrine is "bad" and YOUR
>>>> dogma is "bad".
>>>
>>> Yes, I know, but they cannot show any valid reason for that from the
>>> scriptures as given by God. That is why there are so many false religions,
>>> as
>>> it makes them feel comfortable, just like the muslim who is totally deceived
>>> in their understandings.
>
>

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God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

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