On May 26, 2024, pursent100@gmail.com wrote
(in article<492cnTLdHslrSs77nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>):

> Robert wrote:
> > On May 26, 2024, El Kabong wrote
> > (in article<hmd75jdlcsh5v6qddb0l4jqct32ohkj4vj@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > Robert wrote:
> > > > On May 26, 2024, El Kabong wrote
> > > > > Robert wrote:
> > > > > > On May 26, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:25:17 +1000, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > if we abandon fact based thought in favor of religious notions
> > > > > > > > > there's no telling were it will lead. that's why I say embracing
> > > > > > > > > religious ideas is perilous and unwise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ''
> > > > > > > > The Bible is not greater than conscience and reason. They are
> > > > > > > > directly from God, God's voice heard plainly in the heart, as even on
> > > > > > > > Horeb, or Sinai or the mount of transfiguration. Nothing can be
> > > > > > > > superior to these instructors. The Bible may agree with reason, utter
> > > > > > > > the same sentiments with conscience; and so far it will authority. It
> > > > > > > > can never contradict these counselors, and yet claim obedience. What
> > > > > > > > God has made cannot be unmade by any power short of his own; so
> > > > > > > > nothing arbitrary or capricious can ever become binding on reason and
> > > > > > > > conscience, let it be taught on what external authority it may. One
> > > > > > > > chief merit of Christianity consists in restoring natural morality and
> > > > > > > > natural religion to their original and proper place,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Slavery, incest, polygamy, mass murder = "Natural morality"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First you need to know what you are talking about, and understand
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > throwing shade.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All “slavery” is not what you think, and yes, there is a bad side
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > left to the natural man often is evil and corrupt,
> > > > > > Incest is always evil, and of the sin nature.
> > > > > > Polygamy, freely done of free will, there was a time and a place for it.
> > > > > > Murder in any form is just as evil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she
> > > > > > > will not be freed at the end of six years as the
> > > > > > > men are.
> > > > > > > Exodus 21:7-11
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This was done for economic reasons, and was not the type of slavery most
> > > > > > think of as overblown by evil people. This was a willing indenture, like
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > you went to work for any employer. At that time it could be for a
> > > > > > shorter
> > > > > > time, long enough to pay off the debt, but no longer than the years that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Law allowed. Which ensured fair play. This is a far more complicated
> > > > > > topic
> > > > > > that this brief explanation, and yes, I know that most people do not get
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > But many sell themselves as indentured employees in order to feed and
> > > > > > clothe
> > > > > > their families instead of opting to die prematurely of starvation or
> > > > > > freeze
> > > > > > to death. This was also common in the early days of America regardless
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > race. Even in the biblical times many “slaves” could buy back their
> > > > > > freedom from the monies earned for their work. Some never opted out,
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > to work for their living and get a little spending money on top of all
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > other benefits provided them. Bigots will never understand what I am
> > > > > > saying,
> > > > > > and they would be the same type of people who would treat their slaves
> > > > > > poorly and beat them, like they do here with their harsh words and bad
> > > > > > attitudes.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you are a defender and apologist for slavery.
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn’t put it that way at all. I just understand the various
> > > > meanings
> > > > for the one English word called slavery.
> > >
> > > No, there aren't "various meanings" for slavery. A slave
> > > is a person who is owned by another person, a practice
> > > which you obviously condone.
> >
> > https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-today/
> >
> > https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-today/modern-slavery/
> >
> > https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-today/slavery-uk/
> >
> > None of this has to do with religions.
> >
> > > > Do you work as an employee? If so, what are the does and don’t’s of
> > > > your
> > > > life as an employee. What ‘carrots’ do they dangle in front of you,
> > > > what
> > > > actual freedoms do you have to keep on being an employee. Think about it.
> > >
> > > Pure hyperbole. False equivalence.
> >
> > What makes you think so? Too tired to think, or are you just another frog in
> > a pot of boiling water.
> > >
> > >
> > > > A few years back there were a group of multi-million dollar paid football
> > > > players who made a point out of their slavery by the white man, and what
> > > > they
> > >
> > > That's MX-stupid.
> >
> > Nevertheless it was well stated in the news.
> > >
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > > If slavery was justified in the past, don't you think
> > > > > it's still justifiable now? If not, what has changed?
> > > >
> > > > The name. Is not China the largest slave industry in the world? What about
> > > > pimps and their women?
> > > > What about employee’s and employers? What about people on the dole?
> > > > People
> > > > that are slaves to their drugs of choice. What about the countries
> > > > controlled by Dictators?
> > > >
> > > > My point is, in one way or another many are slaves.
> > >
> > > I'll take that as a "yes slavery is still perfectly
> > > justified because political prisoners in Red China are
> > > forced to make plastic toys for Happy Meals."
> >
> > All forms of slavery are NOT justified, never said or intimidated that it
> > is.
> > You just blew your cred's irretrievably also showed an inability to reason.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you not read Creon's post about Parker? You are
> > > Exhibit A for putting biblical dogma above conscience.
> >
> > I don’t remember seeing it much less reading it.
> > Your rationale, as well as his, is based on bias’, if that is your
> > conclusion.
> >
> > Historically there has been many forms of slavery, slave owners, treatment
> > of
> > Slaves, and in the Bible, Joseph was a slave in Egypt yet out of that he
> > became ruler of all of Egypt ruling with the same authority as the Pharaoh
> > that was alive at the time.
> > >
> > > Welcome to the 21st century, Robert. You should be
> > > ashamed of yourself.
> >
> > Not one bit. Because you are unable to reason, understand, or even think in
> > regards to this subject is on you, not me.
> > Too bad you never had a class on American history and the various forms of
> > slavery.
> >
> > Would you rather a family starve to death rather than indenture themselves
> > as
> > a slave to survive poor economic times, droughts, etc,?
> >
> > slave | sleɪv
> >
> > noun
> >
> > 1 a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to
> > be
> > their property; an enslaved person: they kidnapped entire towns and turned
> > the inhabitants into slaves | vodun derives from ancient African rites and
> > beliefs brought to the New World by slaves.
> >
> > • a person who works very hard without proper remuneration or
> > appreciation:
> > by the time I was ten, I had become her slave, doing all the housework.
> >
> > • a person who is excessively dependent upon or controlled by something:
> > the poorest people of the world are slaves to the banks | she was no slave
> > to
> > fashion.
> >
> > 2 a device, or part of one, directly controlled by another. Compare with
> > master1:[as modifier] : a slave cassette deck.
> >
> > verb
> >
> > 1 [no object] work excessively hard: after slaving away for fourteen years
> > all he gets is two thousand | I haven't got time to spend hours slaving over
> > a hot stove.
> >
> > 2 [with object] subject (a device) to control by another: should the need
> > arise, the two channels can be slaved together.
> >
> > 3 [with object] archaic make (someone) a slave; enslave.
> >
> > ORIGIN
> >
> > Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval
> > Latin sclava (feminine) ‘Slavonic (captive)’: the Slavonic peoples had
> > been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century.
> see , i was right

Nope. Sure wish you had enough rational to follow the links, and read with
understanding. (Reading comprehension)