On 21/05/2024 8:53 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/20/2024 9:15 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 21/05/2024 1:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/20/24 8:08 AM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2024, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/05/2024 8:50 pm, D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 19 May 2024, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What it used to be like and it worked because it is correct
>>>>>>>>> correction, and that child knows it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fJOfgZNxF2A
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look at the mother calmly speaking to her. The daughter
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't listen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bang! End of story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead we have entitled little shits these days who don't know
>>>>>>>>> where they are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Proverbs 29:15  The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child
>>>>>>>>> left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Proverbs 13:24  He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he
>>>>>>>>> that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dawn wrote:
>>>>>>>> It's abuse.  She didn't need to hit her daughter in the mouth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, she did. It was exactly what she needed and the child knew
>>>>>>> it. Bullseye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A loving and wise mother!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Michael. And based on my own experience in childhood,
>>>>>> and my parents, it works. Also note that it is self correcting.
>>>>>
>>>>> It didn't look self-correcting to me. :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>> The last time my mother slapped me was when I slapped her back
>>>>>> (with equal force). Then she never again did it and we were "even"
>>>>>> and after that we had adult conversations when we disagreed.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I was your father and I saw you do that to your mother, the
>>>>> "woman" who gave birth to you, what do you think—no matter your
>>>>> age—I would have done to you post haste?
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea. She slapped me, so I slapped her. Logical, easy, and
>>>> it permanently solved the problem for me.
>>>>
>>>>> Put it this way, you will never ever do that again.
>>>>
>>>> Doubt it. If you would have been there, most likely it would have
>>>> ended in a fist fight and me moving out, and then waiting for a few
>>>> years or a life time of you apologizing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep, this is why hitting, slapping, etc., lead to relationships
>>> breaking up,
>>> parents getting arrested, etc.  Instead of Mom slapping you, she should
>>> have told you, "Time for a paddling," and positioned you
>>> accordingly.  If
>>> you refused, then you would need to have everything that mattered to you
>>> (phone, gaming systems, friends, etc.) removed until you willingly
>>> accepted
>>> your punishment, which would need to be augmented due to your initial
>>> defiance.  Maybe a "couple (or several?) sets of 3" would be
>>> appropriate??
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> It is a man's job to be self-disciplined and discipline. Well, it used
>> to be. "Just wait till your father gets home." A woman could rely on a
>> man back then, generally speaking, now the men are all mostly cowards
>> who hide behind the mother's apron.
>>
>> Anyway, a woman messing around physically trying to restraint even a
>> young child can be hard, if not impossible, but not for the man. There
>> is no messing around.
>>
>> But if a child strikes their mother, all the commandments are broken
>> in one go. In other words, in your terms, the greatest "moral" wrong
>> has been committed, and there are no excuses for it.
>>
>> And that has to be dealt with or the household will disintegrate.
>>
>> A child needs strong discipline for strong rebellion, like our girl in
>> that video. Personally, I think she got off lightly, but it was very
>> timely and effectively appropriate. What a perceptive and wise mother
>> she is!
>>
>
> You underestimate Us!
>
> Dawn

Is there something you didn't understand?

Can you please do at least one day with gaslighting me, Dawn?

Huh?

It would be a nice change.

Michael Christ

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