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Subject: Re: All That Jesus Commanded
From: Robert
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From: robert@no.way (Robert)
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Subject: Re: All That Jesus Commanded
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 23:10:11 -0700
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On May 15, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v240he$1brf5$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 16/05/2024 12:02 pm, Robert wrote:
> > On May 15, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <v23hbn$138io$12@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 16/05/2024 9:07 am, Robert wrote:
> > > > On May 15, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > > > (in article <v23e84$138ip$1@dont-email.me>):
> > > >
> > > > > On 16/05/2024 8:00 am, ChristRose wrote:
> > > > > > In the Great Commission, Jesus included
> > > > > > the instruction to teach them to observe
> > > > > > "all things I have commanded you". What,
> > > > > > then, did Jesus command them?
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > The great commission as you put it was the Lord directly speaking to His
> > > > > chosen disciples. So, you'll have to ask one of the Lord's chosen
> > > > > disciples—start with Peter. And they gave their lives, Buddy Boy, they
> > > > > didn't go around trying to justify their whoredom with self-manufactured
> > > > > accommodating sinner theology.
>
> Robert wrote:
> > > > Jhn 13:34 (KJV) A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
> > > > another;
> > > > as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
> > > >
> > > > Jhn 13:35 (KJV) By this shall all menknow that ye are my disciples, if ye
> > > > have love one to another.
> > >
> > > I know, you think you are right, as always, using your bible
> > > interpretational "keep on having to be cleansed of your sin" perfection,
> > > Mr All Jesus Commanded.
> >
> > I know this is correct.
>
> You don't address what I say, you just spit out bible verses that are
> not the context.
>
> You are not correct, your context is not THE context.

His commandment WAS given to his disciples. And thus for all of us who made
him Lord of our lives, so yes, I took that into consideration when the Lord
brought that scripture of His word to my mind.
>
>
> > Not only is it his first new commandment but it also
> > gives the reason for the commandment. It IS obvious that in this NG, most
> > everyone not only do not believe and adhere to it out of love for the Lord,
> > but they outright dismiss it, justifying their ignorance for a variety of
> > reason, some of which you mentioned here, and others because they know that
> > they are a sinner and so they are not obligated in the least to follow the
> > Lord as HE desires them too.
>
> > Historically the Roman Government sent out people to spy on the Believers to
> > see what made them tick, and they mentioned that it was their Love for one
> > another. That was evidence to many of the Love of God.
>
> You don't know what the love of God is, and if you did, you would not
> have ran away from...
>
> Robert wrote:
> > What part of “Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ” do you not deny?
>
> How are you going to do that, Robert?
>
> ...........................................
> ...........................................
> ...........................................
>
> Also, how have you been keeping yourself? Y'know, like "keeping
> yourself" out of the mud?

The Lord keeps me
>
>
> You are a fraud. You were told, you know not what you do; you haven't
> got a clue! So, you just baulk at the truth and try and hide behind
> smoke and mirrors.
>
> You can check with ChristRosie on that! :-).

AI Rosie has already played the cards it has, showed the hand it has,, just
like you.

>
>
> > > There is no true fellowship light with dark, or even dark with dark-that
> > > is a facade.
> >
> > When a person considers themselves to be the true witness and everyone else
> > does not even come closeto stacking up next to them they are a most lonely
> > person, such is the cost of their self deceit. And I am not speaking of only
> > you in this case. Jesus di not rail against the gentiles, and sinners. He
> > railed against those that mocked his word, the self-righteous pharisee.
>
> That is what you people are!
>
> And, again, "There is no true fellowship light with dark (continuing
> sinners), or even dark with dark-that is a facade."
>
> > While Jesus may not come for a few years, death can occur at any time.
>
> Mind-bogging truth! Have you got any more? :-).
>
> The sound of your own voice and context! :-).
>
> Meanwhile, the truth...
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
> > > That is the only man who can quote a bible verse at someone in
> > > righteousness, Buddy, is a "All Jesus Commanded man, a man who has lost
> > > his life, not a man trying to sleaze his way through with "keep on
> > > having to be cleansed of continual whoring."
> > >
> > > Do you ever hear anything?
> > >
> > > Sure, the bible verses you quoted talk about love, but not a
> > > commissioning to take the gospel to the ends of the earth as you people
> > > presume of yourselves. It already happened as the Lord said would happen
> > > (Acts 1-8).
> > >
> > > And if you want to talk about love being a demonstration of discipleship
> > > unto the Lord, sure. Then you have to talk about being born again, and
> > > not in the state of rebellion against Him with continual sinning, a
> > > swinging voter.
> > >
> > > No son of God is a sinner any longer...
> > >
> > > 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and
> > > declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
> > >
> > > In Christ Jesus is no sin and no revolving door of sinners going back
> > > and forth.
> > >
> > > A true friend tells you the truth (love), but a liar, a fraud, is
> > > someone like Rod who brings you empty humanistic platitudes.
> > >
> > > Sweet in the mouth, bitter in the stomach.
> > >
> > > Bitter in the mouth, sweet to the stomach.
> > >
> > > No, I will not go back to being like you and your kind to keep you happy
> > > in your delusion.
> > >
> > > YOU and Rosie need to change, not me, I was changed, transformed by the
> > > Lord Himself, not by personal glorious theology bible studying, whether
> > > you can see that or not.
>
> You only listen to the sound of your own voice, Robbo.
>
> It is your funeral.
>
> I going to catch up with you on the day, and I will stare you straight
> in the eye and will not need to say a thing, but you will know
> everything you were told was true, and all you have said was false.
>
> Your context religion is pure Pharisee, like ChristRosie. And I've got a
> date with him too!
>
> Michael Christ
>
> > > > > The gospel was taken to the ends of the earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come
> > > > > upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in
> > > > > all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > The rest is just history.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I see, you are making yourself a disciple! Well, you can't be a
> > > > > disciple of the Lord and a disciple of the world, Continual Sinner Rosie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the truth really mean anything to these people? Nope, not when it
> > > > > comes to their sinner pride! All that Jesus commanded??? You? Yeah,
> > > > > right! Tick tock, Pied PiperRosie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Christ
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Piper
> > > > > > wrote a book on it titled, "All That
> > > > > > Jesus Commanded". It distills all of
> > > > > > Jesus' teachings into 50 commands He
> > > > > > gave. It's a free download on his site
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > https://document.desiringgod.org/all-that-jesus-commanded-en.pdf?ts=1685
> > > > > > 12
> > > > > > 63
> > > > > > 34
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Read Chapter 28, especially, as it
> > > > > > relates to the current theme of people
> > > > > > in here being offended by the truth, and
> > > > > > judging whether or not someone is being
> > > > > > loving, by how they feel about being
> > > > > > told the truth, rather than by the
> > > > > > benefit of being told the truth. The PDF
> > > > > > download says page 243, but chapter 28
> > > > > > corresponds to page 216 in the printed
> > > > > > book.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you're offended by the truth, read
> > > > > > that chapter and see what Jesus said! If
> > > > > > you're someone who's been judged or
> > > > > > persecuted for telling the truth, find
> > > > > > comfort in Jesus' teaching in this
> > > > > > chapter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Have you heard the good news Christ died
> > > > > > for our sins (†), and God raised Him
> > > > > > from the dead?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That Christ died for our sins shows
> > > > > > we're sinners who deserve the death
> > > > > > penalty. That God raised Him from the
> > > > > > dead shows Christ's death satisfied
> > > > > > God's righteous demands against our sin
> > > > > > (Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
> > > > > > God can now remain just, while forgiving
> > > > > > you of your sins, and saving you from
> > > > > > eternal damnation.

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By: Michael Christ on Wed, 15 May 2024

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