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Subject: Re: All That Jesus Commanded
From: Michael Christ
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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Subject: Re: All That Jesus Commanded
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 14:02:53 +1000
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On 16/05/2024 12:02 pm, Robert wrote:
> On May 15, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v23hbn$138io$12@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 16/05/2024 9:07 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 15, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <v23e84$138ip$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 16/05/2024 8:00 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>> In the Great Commission, Jesus included
>>>>> the instruction to teach them to observe
>>>>> "all things I have commanded you". What,
>>>>> then, did Jesus command them?
>>

Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> The great commission as you put it was the Lord directly speaking to His
>>>> chosen disciples. So, you'll have to ask one of the Lord's chosen
>>>> disciples—start with Peter. And they gave their lives, Buddy Boy, they
>>>> didn't go around trying to justify their whoredom with self-manufactured
>>>> accommodating sinner theology.

Robert wrote:
>>> Jhn 13:34 (KJV) A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another;
>>> as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
>>>
>>> Jhn 13:35 (KJV) By this shall all menknow that ye are my disciples, if ye
>>> have love one to another.
>>
>> I know, you think you are right, as always, using your bible
>> interpretational "keep on having to be cleansed of your sin" perfection,
>> Mr All Jesus Commanded.
>
> I now this is correct.

You don't address what I say, you just spit out bible verses that are
not the context.

You are not correct, your context is not THE context.

> Not only is it his first new commandment but it also
> gives the reason for the commandment. It IS obvious that in this NG, most
> everyone not only do not believe and adhere to it out of love for the Lord,
> but they outright dismiss it, justifying their ignorance for a variety of
> reason, some of which you mentioned here, and others because they know that
> they are a sinner and so they are not obligated in the least to follow the
> Lord as HE desires them too.

> Historically the Roman Government sent out people to spy on the Believers to
> see what made them tick, and they mentioned that it was their Love for one
> another. That was evidence to many of the Love of God.

You don't know what the love of God is, and if you did, you would not
have ran away from...

Robert wrote:
> What part of “Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ” do you not deny?

How are you going to do that, Robert?

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Also, how have you been keeping yourself? Y'know, like "keeping
yourself" out of the mud?

You are a fraud. You were told, you know not what you do; you haven't
got a clue! So, you just baulk at the truth and try and hide behind
smoke and mirrors.

You can check with ChristRosie on that! :-).

>> There is no true fellowship light with dark, or even dark with dark-that
>> is a facade.
>
> When a person considers themselves to be the true witness and everyone else
> does not even come closeto stacking up next to them they are a most lonely
> person, such is the cost of their self deceit. And I am not speaking of only
> you in this case. Jesus di not rail against the gentiles, and sinners. He
> railed against those that mocked his word, the self-righteous pharisee.

That is what you people are!

And, again, "There is no true fellowship light with dark (continuing
sinners), or even dark with dark-that is a facade."

> While Jesus may not come for a few years, death can occur at any time.

Mind-bogging truth! Have you got any more? :-).

The sound of your own voice and context! :-).

Meanwhile, the truth...

Michael Christ wrote:
>> That is the only man who can quote a bible verse at someone in
>> righteousness, Buddy, is a "All Jesus Commanded man, a man who has lost
>> his life, not a man trying to sleaze his way through with "keep on
>> having to be cleansed of continual whoring."
>>
>> Do you ever hear anything?
>>
>> Sure, the bible verses you quoted talk about love, but not a
>> commissioning to take the gospel to the ends of the earth as you people
>> presume of yourselves. It already happened as the Lord said would happen
>> (Acts 1-8).
>>
>> And if you want to talk about love being a demonstration of discipleship
>> unto the Lord, sure. Then you have to talk about being born again, and
>> not in the state of rebellion against Him with continual sinning, a
>> swinging voter.
>>
>> No son of God is a sinner any longer...
>>
>> 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and
>> declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
>>
>> In Christ Jesus is no sin and no revolving door of sinners going back
>> and forth.
>>
>> A true friend tells you the truth (love), but a liar, a fraud, is
>> someone like Rod who brings you empty humanistic platitudes.
>>
>> Sweet in the mouth, bitter in the stomach.
>>
>> Bitter in the mouth, sweet to the stomach.
>>
>> No, I will not go back to being like you and your kind to keep you happy
>> in your delusion.
>>
>> YOU and Rosie need to change, not me, I was changed, transformed by the
>> Lord Himself, not by personal glorious theology bible studying, whether
>> you can see that or not.

You only listen to the sound of your own voice, Robbo.

It is your funeral.

I going to catch up with you on the day, and I will stare you straight
in the eye and will not need to say a thing, but you will know
everything you were told was true, and all you have said was false.

Your context religion is pure Pharisee, like ChristRosie. And I've got a
date with him too!

Michael Christ

>>>> The gospel was taken to the ends of the earth.
>>>>
>>>> Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come
>>>> upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in
>>>> all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
>>>>
>>>> The rest is just history.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I see, you are making yourself a disciple! Well, you can't be a
>>>> disciple of the Lord and a disciple of the world, Continual Sinner Rosie.
>>>>
>>>> Does the truth really mean anything to these people? Nope, not when it
>>>> comes to their sinner pride! All that Jesus commanded??? You? Yeah,
>>>> right! Tick tock, Pied PiperRosie.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Piper
>>>>> wrote a book on it titled, "All That
>>>>> Jesus Commanded". It distills all of
>>>>> Jesus' teachings into 50 commands He
>>>>> gave. It's a free download on his site
>>>>> at
>>>>> https://document.desiringgod.org/all-that-jesus-commanded-en.pdf?ts=168512
>>>>> 63
>>>>> 34
>>>>>
>>>>> Read Chapter 28, especially, as it
>>>>> relates to the current theme of people
>>>>> in here being offended by the truth, and
>>>>> judging whether or not someone is being
>>>>> loving, by how they feel about being
>>>>> told the truth, rather than by the
>>>>> benefit of being told the truth. The PDF
>>>>> download says page 243, but chapter 28
>>>>> corresponds to page 216 in the printed
>>>>> book.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're offended by the truth, read
>>>>> that chapter and see what Jesus said! If
>>>>> you're someone who's been judged or
>>>>> persecuted for telling the truth, find
>>>>> comfort in Jesus' teaching in this
>>>>> chapter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Have you heard the good news Christ died
>>>>> for our sins (†), and God raised Him
>>>>> from the dead?
>>>>>
>>>>> That Christ died for our sins shows
>>>>> we're sinners who deserve the death
>>>>> penalty. That God raised Him from the
>>>>> dead shows Christ's death satisfied
>>>>> God's righteous demands against our sin
>>>>> (Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
>>>>> God can now remain just, while forgiving
>>>>> you of your sins, and saving you from
>>>>> eternal damnation.
>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

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