On 15/05/2024 8:04 pm, Attila wrote:
> On Tue, 14 May 2024 21:42:27 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <66443D33.7654@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know too much about Atheism...but is there a song yous sing in
>> an atheist church??? What's the title?
>> wat are the lyrics?
>
> Why do you think atheists have a place to not worship?

Oh, you have a place, Buddy. You worship what you think. Yourself.

Yes, you brought yourself into being and you claim all the glory for it
every day.

Michael Christ

>
>>
>>
>> Imagine there's no heaven
>> It's easy if you tryyyyy
>> No hell below us
>> Above us only skyyyyyy
>>
>> Imagine there's no savior
>> just reason and rhyme
>> With knowledge our beacon
>> We reach for the skyyyy
>>
>> We ain't going to heaven
>> cause we got no tickets
>> ...
>>
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>>>
>>> when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.
>>>
>>> Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.
>>>
>>> Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>>>
>>> Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!
>>>
>>> Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
>>> real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
>>> it in your pocket.
>>> I take PayPal.
>>>
>>> If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
>>> window seat.
>>>
>>> In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
>>>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Maximus"wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>>>>>>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Such as ~ DNA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>>>>>>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>>>>>>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>>>>>>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only reason your above is true, is because,
>>>>>> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
>>>>>> use of fantasy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
>>>>> anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for those who go by *real world science*
>>>>>> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
>>>>>> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
>>>>>> a "'materialistic only'' process.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no evidence to support anything being not
>>>>> materialistic only.
>>>>
>>>> You have no sole, Attila.
>>>>
>>>> That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> God is God in all His Being.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
>>>> 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
>>>> everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>>>>
>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>>>
>>>> Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>>>> YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>>>>
>>>> Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
>>>> is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>>>>
>>>> Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
>>>> are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>>>>
>>>> Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>>>> hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>>>>
>>>> "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>>>>
>>>> "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>>>>
>>>> "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
>>>> God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>>>>
>>>> "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
>>>> God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
>>>> sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>>>>
>>>> "Compromise will condemn you."
>>>>
>>>> "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>>>>
>>>> "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>>>>
>>>> "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
>>>> know that?"
>>>>
>>>> "The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>>>>
>>>> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>>>> where God intends."
>>>>
>>>> "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>>>>
>>>> "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
>>>> live, by faith."
>>>>
>>>> "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>>>>
>>>> "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
>>>> ahead."
>>>>
>>>> "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>>>>
>>>> "Priority is everything."
>>>>
>>>> "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>>>>
>>>> "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
>>>> it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>>>>
>>>> "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>>>>
>>>> "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
>>>> an ignorant straw man."
>>>>
>>>> "Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>>>>
>>>> "No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>>>>
>>>> "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
>>>> and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>>>>
>>>> The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
>>>> obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>>>>
>>>> "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>>>>
>>>> "Man is not the centre of being."
>>>>
>>>> "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>>>>
>>>> "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>>>>
>>>> "Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>>>>
>>>> "Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>>>>
>>>> "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>>>>
>>>> "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
>>>> willingness to believe."
>>>>
>>>> "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
>>>> and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>>>>
>>>> "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
>>>> full of hope."
>>>>
>>>> "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
>>>> through it so that a sinner could play God."
>>>>
>>>> "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>>>>
>>>> "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
>>>> is the love of God."
>>>>
>>>> "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
>>>> pretending he is the meaning of life."
>>>>
>>>> "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
>>>> still according to my power," says the Lord.
>>>>
>>>> What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
>>>> order to explain the existence of existence.
>>>>
>>>> "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>>>>
>>>> "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
>>>> Â What a gift in a fallen world!"
>>>>
>>>> "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>>>>
>>>> "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
>>>> that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
>>>> the glory of God"
>>>>
>>>> "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
>>>> isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
>>>> road."
>>>>
>>>> "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
>>>> and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
>>>> punished; it is what you are left with."
>>>>
>>>> "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
>>>> birth it in a man."
>>>>
>>>> "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
>>>> self-righteousness."
>>>>
>>>> "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>>>>
>>>> "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
>>>> The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>>>>
>>>> "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>>>>
>>>> "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>>>>
>>>> "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>>>>
>>>> "There is no such thing as random!"
>>>>
>>>> "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>>>>
>>>> "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
>>>> you know nothing."
>>>>
>>>> "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>>>>
>>>> "No sinner is sinless in any way."
>>>>
>>>> "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>>>>
>>>> "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
>>>> a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>>>>
>>>> "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>>>>
>>>> "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>>>>
>>>> "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
>>>> exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
>>>> really are."
>>>>
>>>> "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> and challenge the unchallengeable.
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."