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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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From: mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut (Michael A Terrell)
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On 10/30/2024 5:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <H7dUO.309207$EEm7.215970@fx16.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 1:51 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <IC9UO.309198$EEm7.130585@fx16.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2024 10:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>>>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>>>>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your problem,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
>>>>>> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>>>>>>>>>> only reason they don't have due process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
>>>>>>>> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No they didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
>>>>>> Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
>>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
>>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
>>>>>> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
>>>>>> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
>>>>>> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
>>>>>> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
>>>>>> scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why don't they tear down the Holocaust museum?
>>>>
>>>> Who's "they," you fascist racist KKK shitbag deplorable? And why should it be>> torn down? It's not a museum to celebrate the holocaust, you stupid
>>>> shit-4-braincell cocksucker. It's a museum to teach how horrible the Nazis ?
>>>> your people ? were and are.
>>>
>>> Not an excuse.
>>
>> No excuse needed, "Lamey."
>
> There is no one here using that nym.

Not now, but you used to post under that pseudonym. I proved it.

>>
>>> It is a reminder.
>>
>> A valuable and necessary reminder of just how bad you Nazi filth were and are,
>> "Lamey." It is not remotely comparable to the racist fascist memorials to
>> confederate traitors.
>>
>> You need to be shot.
>
> Bring it bitch.

<yawn> More phony and stale tuff-boi talk. It's another of your stupid tropes.
You're a no-fight squat-to-piss homo pussy.

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Another content-free post from Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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