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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Skeeter
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In article <XnsB21AD57623A5D629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:vfqtn8$1jpg9$8@dont-email.me:
>
> >
> >
> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
> >> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
> >> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
> >>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
> >>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
> >>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
> >>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
> >>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
> >>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit
> >>>>>>>> who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
> >>>>>>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
> >>>>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
> >>>>>>>>> > noemail@aol.com
> >>>>>>>>> > says...
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >>>>>>>>> >> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and
> >>>>>>>>> >> > harmless Nazi >>
> >>>>>>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral,
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> professional,
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
> >>
> >> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA
> >> HA HA HA*!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
> >>>>>>>>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
> >>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to
> >>>>>>>>> do so, we could
> >>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and
> >>>>>>>>> over and over,
> >>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause
> >>>>>>>>> for why the
> >>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a
> >>>>>>>>> procedural error was
> >>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was
> >>>>>>>>> reasonably tainted,
> >>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands
> >>>>>>>>> and the execution proceeds on track.
> >>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If
> >>>>>>>>> you can't make
> >>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never
> >>>>>>>>> all. Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's
> >>>>>>>>> the end of it.
> >>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
> >>>>>>>>> space and
> >>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
> >>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
> >>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high,
> >>>>>>>>> we can certainly streamline the process by eliminating long
> >>>>>>>>> times you can file and
> >>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
> >>>>>>>>> simply
> >>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
> >>>>>>>>> who decides
> >>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
> >>>>>>>>> reexamined in
> >>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
> >>>>>>>>> judicial
> >>>>>>>>> error.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
> >>>>>>>>> carried out
> >>>>>>>>> immediately.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the
> >>>>>>>>> endless round of
> >>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is,
> >>>>>>>>> you have the
> >>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the
> >>>>>>>>> judge who can
> >>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial
> >>>>>>>>> that could
> >>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out
> >>>>>>>>> the execution
> >>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
> >>>>>>>>> already being
> >>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
> >>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
> >>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed
> >>>>>>>>> for it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the
> >>>>>>>> red tape
> >>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up
> >>>>>>> the price
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want
> >>>>>> to live in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not
> >>>>>> going to emulate North Korea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the
> >>>>> people IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> We know it's not a problem to
> >>
> >> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
> >
> > Your problem, thankfully, isn't my problem. You will have to work out
> > your problems on your own.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and
> >>>> that is the only reason they don't have due process.
> >>>
> >>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
> >>
> >> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The
> >> parties switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
> >
> > No they didn't.
> >
> >
>
> Yes, they did.
>
> Racist Strom Thurmond switched
> to the GOP, racist David Duke switched
> to the GOP, racist George Wallace left
> the GOP for his own racist party.
>
Joe trying to fuck up Harris campaign. Calling us "garbage".

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By: Rudy Canoza on Tue, 22 Oct 2024

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