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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/29/2024 1:51 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <IC9UO.309198$EEm7.130585@fx16.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 10:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>> content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your problem,
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
>>>> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>>>>>>>> only reason they don't have due process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
>>>>>> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No they didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Once again:
>>>>
>>>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
>>>> Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
>>>> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
>>>> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
>>>> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> ============================
>>>>
>>>> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
>>>> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
>>>> scooter.
>>>
>>> Then why don't they tear down the Holocaust museum?
>>
>> Who's "they," you fascist racist KKK shitbag deplorable? And why should it be>> torn down? It's not a museum to celebrate the holocaust, you stupid
>> shit-4-braincell cocksucker. It's a museum to teach how horrible the Nazis —
>> your people — were and are.
>
> Not an excuse.

No excuse needed, "Lamey."

> It is a reminder.

A valuable and necessary reminder of just how bad you Nazi filth were and are,
"Lamey." It is not remotely comparable to the racist fascist memorials to
confederate traitors.

You need to be shot.

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Another content-free post from Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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By: Rudy Canoza on Tue, 22 Oct 2024

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