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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/29/2024 10:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
content-free batch of lies:

> In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>
>>>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>>>
>>> Your problem,
>>
>> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
>> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>>>>>> only reason they don't have due process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>>>
>>>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
>>>> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>>>
>>> No they didn't.
>>
>> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>>
>> Once again:
>>
>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
>> Democrats.
>>
>> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
>> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
>> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
>> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> ============================
>>
>> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
>> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
>> scooter.
>
> Then why don't they tear down the Holocaust museum?
Who's "they," you fascist racist KKK shitbag deplorable? And why should it be
torn down? It's not a museum to celebrate the holocaust, you stupid
shit-4-braincell cocksucker. It's a museum to teach how horrible the Nazis —
your people — were and are.

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Another content-free post from Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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