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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Ken
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On 10/29/2024 7:47 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> news:671fe46f$0$3068676$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> In article <o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message >
>>> news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>>> >> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> >>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>
>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>> >>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, >>>>> >>>
>>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>> >>>>> >>> says...
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>  >>>> Shit-4-
>>> >>>>> Braincell back
>>> >>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>> >>>>> >>>> as
>>> >>>>> >>>>  >>>>
>>> >>>>> "Lamey," but
>>> >>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a >>>>> >>>>
>>> fucking >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> loser.
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza >>>>> >>>>>
>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>>> >>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>> prisons there
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> longer
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>> more prisons and
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-
>>> justice-
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> gimmick
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> to fill up
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply >>>>>
>>> >>>> wrong.
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.
>>> >>>>> >>  >> Point >>
>>> >>>>> is that
>>> >>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm >>>>> >
>>> pretty >  >
>>> >>>>> sure
>>> >>>>> one or
>>> >>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is >>>>> >
>>> those > >
>>> >>>>> deaths
>>> >>>>> that
>>> >>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, >>>>>
>>> but no
>>> >>>>> one was
>>> >>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If
>>> >>>>> you think
>>> >>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out >>>>>
>>> your
>>> >>>>> evidence.
>>> >>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank
>>> >>>>> >> for >>
>>> >>>>> >> 5K
>>> >>>>> some 5
>>> >>>>> >> years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the >>>>>
>>> despotic
>>> >>>>> state
>>> >>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a
>>> >>>>> state that
>>> >>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> No they don't.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just >>>>>
>>> > for >
>>> >>>>> robbing a bank
>>> >>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the >>>>> >
>>> money.
>>> >>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in >>>>>
>>> the New York
>>> >>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of >>>>>
>>> $5,000. No one
>>> >>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he >>>>>
>>> was given
>>> >>>>> a 60
>>> >>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And >>>>>
>>> yes, a huge
>>> >>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole
>>> >>>>> states.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>>> >>
>>> >> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>>> >
>>> > "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank >
>>> robbery
>>> > in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a half; >
>>> Robert
>>> > was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60 years."
>>> >
>>> > https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
>>> > apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>>> >
>>> > I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the >
>>> case, and
>>> > as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little >
>>> consequence.
>>> >
>>> > Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while > you
>>> are
>>> > almost never right?
>>> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet ? at
>>> least two decades ? that you have been right, scooter.
>>
>> He slapped you silly.

No.

>
> The problem seems to be, when I do..

You never have been right before now, scooter, and you are unlikely ever to be
right again.

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o Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners

By: Rudy Canoza on Tue, 22 Oct 2024

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