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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Scout
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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>
>> "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>>> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>,
>>>>>> >>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>> >>> says...
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Shit-4-
>>>>>> Braincell back
>>>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>>>>> >>>> as >>>>
>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> loser.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> >>>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> prisons there
>>>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> longer the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> more prisons and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>>>>>> >>>>>> gimmick to fill up
>>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>>>>>> >>>> wrong.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. >>
>>>>>> >> Point >>
>>>>>> is that
>>>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm
>>>>>> > pretty > >
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> one or
>>>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, but
>>>>>> no one was
>>>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If
>>>>>> you think
>>>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out
>>>>>> your evidence.
>>>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>>
>>>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank
>>>>>> >> for >> 5K
>>>>>> some 5
>>>>>> >> years ago? 10? 50? A year ago?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the
>>>>>> despotic state
>>>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a
>>>>>> state that
>>>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No they don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> robbing a bank
>>>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the
>>>>>> > money.
>>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the
>>>>>> New York
>>>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of
>>>>>> $5,000. No one
>>>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he was
>>>>>> given a 60
>>>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And yes,
>>>>>> a huge
>>>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole
>>>>>> states.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>>>
>>>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>>>
>>> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>>
>> "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank
>> robbery in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a
>> half; Robert was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got
>> 60 years."
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
>> apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>>
>> I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the
>> case, and as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very
>> little consequence.
>>
>> Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you
>> are almost never right?
> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet —
> at least two decades — that you have been right, scooter.

Rudy acknowledges that my knowledge and logic are superior to his.

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