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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/28/2024 1:17 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <OERTO.308840$EEm7.56168@fx16.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/28/2024 12:21 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>> content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell
>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
>>>>>>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
>>>>>>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>>>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bank robbery?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>>>>>
>>>>> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>>>>
>>>> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took the
>>>> bait, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of proportion
>>>> to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking about that
>>>> specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
>>>>>>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It always was part of the topic, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, scooter, it was. It is a specific and on-point instance of what the general
>>>> topic *formerly* was, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was
>>>>>> given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000.
>>>>>> Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?
>>>>
>>>> That's not the goal of incarceration, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> The sentence is manifestly unjust, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.
>>>>
>>>> https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1100023.html
>>>>
>>>> You shoot yourself in your crotch every time, scooter...not that there's much to
>>>> hit there.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Illegal possession of a firearm
>>>>>>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
>>>>>>> Reckless endangerment
>>>>>>> Attempted homicide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>
>>>> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No "but," scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery.
>>>>
>>>> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot
>>>>>>>> out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about the law?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing about the law, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law
>>>>
>>>> Straw man, scooter. I never suggested we ignore the law, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly unjust.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see it.
>>>>
>>>> Of course you don't, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck. Fascists KKK fat
>>>> fucks never do.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K
>>>>>>>>>> some 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will.
>>>>>> You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
>>>>> will prove you wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum
>>>>
>>>> No, scooter. That was in 1901. We don't do things today as we did in 1901,
>>>> scooter. And we're not going back to that, scooter. Move to North Korea if
>>>> that's the kind of "justice" system you wish to live under, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.
>>>>
>>>> <crickets>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
>>>>>>>> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should I move?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> <crickets>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing
>>>>>>>>> a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of
>>>>>> the money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>>>>>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and yet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Actually..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Further..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
>>>>>> before fleeing]
>>>>>> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
>>>>>> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
>>>>>> "Heck..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Well..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "After all..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "In fact..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
>>>>>> acknowledgment]
>>>>>> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
>>>>>> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
>>>>>> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
>>>>>> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
>>>>>> "TRANSLATION:.." ? a straw man]
>>>>>> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in
>>>>>> the Constitution anyway]
>>>>>> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
>>>>>> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
>>>>>> "where" [he means "were"]
>>>>>> "were" [he means "where"]
>>>>>> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>>>> <crickets>
>>>
>>> Your desperation is showing
>> Same old stale 35-year-old Usenet trope as before.
>
> Yet here you are

kicking your flabby doughy pimply HIV-oozing ass. Yes.

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convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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