On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
>>>>>>>>>>> there are,
>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
>>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
>>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>
>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>
>>> Bank robbery?
>>
>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>
> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?

See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took the
bait, scooter.

We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of proportion
to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking about that
specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.

>>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
>>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>>
>> It always was part of the topic, scooter.
>
> No, it's not.

Yes, scooter, it was. It is a specific and on-point instance of what the general
topic *formerly* was, scooter.

>
>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was
>> given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000.
>> Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
>
> Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?

That's not the goal of incarceration, scooter.

The sentence is manifestly unjust, scooter.

>>>
>>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
>
> You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1100023.html

You shoot yourself in your crotch every time, scooter...not that there's much to
hit there.

>
>>>
>>> Illegal possession of a firearm
>>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
>>> Reckless endangerment
>>> Attempted homicide
>>
>> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
>
> Prove it.

See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.

>
>>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but
>>
>> No "but," scooter.
>
> Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery.

See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.

>>>
>>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot
>>>> out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>
>>> How about the law?
>>
>> Nothing about the law, scooter.
>
> Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law

Straw man, scooter. I never suggested we ignore the law, scooter.

>> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly unjust.
>
> I don't see it.

Of course you don't, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck. Fascists KKK fat
fucks never do.

>
>>>>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K
>>>>>> some 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>
>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
>>>
>>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>>
>> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will.
>> You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
>
> Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
> will prove you wrong.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum

No, scooter. That was in 1901. We don't do things today as we did in 1901,
scooter. And we're not going back to that, scooter. Move to North Korea if
that's the kind of "justice" system you wish to live under, scooter.

>>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
>>>
>>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>>
>> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.

<crickets>

>>>
>>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
>>>> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>
>>> I should I move?
>>
>> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.

<crickets>

>>>
>>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing
>>>>> a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>
>>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
>>
>> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of
>> the money.
>>
>>>
>>>> *This* case, scooter — the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
>>>
>>> and yet,
>>
>> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>>
>> "Actually..." [empty padding]
>> "Further..." [empty padding]
>> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
>> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
>> before fleeing]
>> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
>> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
>> "Heck..." [empty padding]
>> "Well..." [empty padding]
>> "After all..." [empty padding]
>> "In fact..." [empty padding]
>> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
>> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
>> acknowledgment]
>> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
>> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
>> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man]
>> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
>> "TRANSLATION:.." — a straw man]
>> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in
>> the Constitution anyway]
>> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
>> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
>> "where" [he means "were"]
>> "were" [he means "where"]
>> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>>
>>>
>>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>>
>> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
<crickets>