"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>>>>> Shit-4-Braincell back
>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>>>>> loser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>>>>> prisons there are,
>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer
>>>>>>>>>> the sentences.
>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The more
>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. Point
>>>>> is that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>
>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty
>>>> sure one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It
>>>> is those deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>
>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>
>> Bank robbery?
>
> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.

And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case? Oh,
that's right.. you had to attempt to find the rare, if it is, case against
the general condition under discussion.
>
>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>
> It always was part of the topic, scooter.

No, it's not.

> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who
> was given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of
> $5,000. Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?

Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?

If he hasn't then it looks like we are safer.

Sure, it might suck to be the violent criminal who help up a business at gun
point and reportedly fired at a police officer, but that's his problem.
After all he turned down the plea deal and decided to roll the dice.

>>
>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
>>
>> So?
>
> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.

You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.

Because just because you missed doesn't mean it wasn't a crime.

>>
>> Illegal possession of a firearm
>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
>> Reckless endangerment
>> Attempted homicide
>
> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.

Prove it. Somehow, I don't think you can.

>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
>>
>> Sorry, but
>
> No "but," scooter.

Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery. Because in my
experience, they throw on any charge they can.

>>
>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter,
>>> trot out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
>>
>> How about the law?
>
> Nothing about the law, scooter.

Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law will make us
safer.

> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly
> unjust.

I don't see it. You say he was duly and justly convicted.. so how can the
sentence suddenly become unjust?

Can you show that it is in excess of what the law allows? If you could I bet
his lawyers would love to hear from you because that would be a basis to
have his sentence revoked or reduced depending on how much time he should
have served under the law.

>>>>> Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for
>>>>> 5K some 5 years ago? 10? 50? A year ago?
>>>>
>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>
>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
>>
>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>
> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never
> will. You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to
> see.

Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
will prove you wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum

>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
>>
>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>
> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.
>
>>
>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that
>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>
>> I should I move?
>
> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.
>
>>
>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for
>>>> robbing a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery
>>>> of the money.
>>
>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the
>> money.
>
> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery
> of the money.
>
>>
>>> *This* case, scooter — the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
>>
>> and yet,
>
> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>
> "Actually..." [empty padding]
> "Further..." [empty padding]
> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent
> immediately before fleeing]
> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and
> pointless]
> "Heck..." [empty padding]
> "Well..." [empty padding]
> "After all..." [empty padding]
> "In fact..." [empty padding]
> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
> acknowledgment]
> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the
> opponent *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man]
> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
> "TRANSLATION:.." — a straw man]
> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be*
> in the Constitution anyway]
> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
> "where" [he means "were"]
> "were" [he means "where"]
> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>
>>
>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>
> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>
>>
>> That's called "attempted murder".
>
> Robertson wasn't charged with that, scooter. He was charged *only* with
> armed robbery, a violation of La. R.S. 14:64.
>
>>
>>> Richardson robbed a bank of $5,000. No one was killed or even injured in
>>> the robbery and its aftermath.
>>
>> Irrelevant.
>
> Fully relevant, scooter. He was charged with and convicted of armed
> robbery only.
>
> You're not going to get the despotic state you wish for, scooter.