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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Skeeter
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In article <wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>
> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
> >
> >
> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
> >> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
> >>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell back
> >>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as "Lamey,"
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
> >>>>>>>>> there are,
> >>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
> >>>>>>>>> sentences.
> >>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
> >>>>>>>>> prisons and
> >>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> More support:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
> >>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
> >>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to fill
> >>>>>>>> up the
> >>>>>>>> prisons.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then dont do it.
> >>>>
> >>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
> >>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
> >>>
> >>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure one
> >>> or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those deaths
> >>> that put you in prison without parole.
> >>
> >> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
> >
> > Bank robbery?
>
> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>
> > When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific
> > bank robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>
> It always was part of the topic, scooter. "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us
> Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was given a 60 year no-parole no-probation
> sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000. Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
>
> >
> >> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
> >
> > So?
>
> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
>
> >
> > Illegal possession of a firearm
> > Illegal discharge of a Firearm
> > Reckless endangerment
> > Attempted homicide
>
> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
>
>
> >> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
> >
> > Sorry, but
>
> No "but," scooter.
>
> >
> >> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out
> >> your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
> >
> > How about the law?
>
> Nothing about the law, scooter. The man was duly and justly convicted, but the
> sentence is manifestly unjust.
>
> >>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K some
> >>>> 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
> >>>
> >>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
> >>
> >> That's not going to happen, scooter.
> >
> > Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>
> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will. You
> are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
>
> >> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
> >
> > An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>
> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.
>
> >
> >> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
> >> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
> >
> > I should I move?
>
> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.
>
> >
> >>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing a
> >>> bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
> >
> > Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
>
> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of the
> money.
>
> >
> >> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New York
> >> Times (Gold Standard) story above.
> >
> > and yet,
>
> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>
> "Actually..." [empty padding]
> "Further..." [empty padding]
> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
> before fleeing]
> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
> "Heck..." [empty padding]
> "Well..." [empty padding]
> "After all..." [empty padding]
> "In fact..." [empty padding]
> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
> acknowledgment]
> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
> ? a straw man]
> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
> Constitution anyway]
> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
> "where" [he means "were"]
> "were" [he means "where"]
> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>
> >
> > Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>
> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>
> >
> > That's called "attempted murder".
>
> Robertson wasn't charged with that, scooter. He was charged *only* with armed
> robbery, a violation of La. R.S. 14:64.
>
> >
> >> Richardson robbed a bank of $5,000. No one was killed or even injured in the
> >> robbery and its aftermath.
> >
> > Irrelevant.
>
> Fully relevant, scooter. He was charged with and convicted of armed robbery only.
>
> You're not going to get the despotic state you wish for, scooter.

Do the crime then do the time. It's that simple.

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o Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners

By: Rudy Canoza on Tue, 22 Oct 2024

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