"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>> batch of lies:
>>>
>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>
>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>> > says...
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who
>>>>>> >> is >>
>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi
>>>>>> >> > >> >
>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>
>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>
>>> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
>>> HA HA*!
>>>
>>>>>> >> >> [...]
>>>>>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so,
>>>>>> we could
>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over
>>>>>> and over,
>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for
>>>>>> why the
>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>> error was
>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably
>>>>>> tainted,
>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you
>>>>>> can't make
>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> But since you want
>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>> >> them, no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can
>>>>>> file and
>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who
>>>>>> decides
>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
>>>>>> judicial
>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
>>>>>> carried out
>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless
>>>>>> round of
>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>> who can
>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the
>>>>>> execution
>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
>>>>>> already being
>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>>>>>> expensive.. I
>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>> tape
>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>
>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to
>>> live in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to
>>> emulate North Korea.
>>
>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.

> That's not the problem, scooter.

We know it's not a problem to keep people out of our country. That is after
all, part of why borders exist.

>The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>only reason they don't have due process.

Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?

However, I will just note that you are now claiming that border fences are
NOT the issue.

> What you are calling "BS," scooter, is due process and the rest of the
> rule of law that makes the U.S. civilized, and the lack of which makes
> North Korea a shithole.

Due process and rule of law....

Where does that require that the law be ignored and crimes allowed to happen
without interference?

I mean, you do know that it is a CRIME to illegally cross the border
anywhere other than at a point of entry.
Further it is also a matter of law that you have to obtain permission by
getting a visa to enter there unless you are a US citizen..
I mean that's what due process and the rule of law require.
So why exactly are you demanding that due process and the rule of law be
IGNORED???

> You're just not going to get your way, scooter.

So you're telling me the law won't be enforced?

> The due process that makes our justice system relatively just is not going
> away.

And yet, you just stated it was.

> We are not going to have summary executions of people you consider
> undesirable, scooter.

The only person talking executions is you.

Meanwhile, under the law you can be fined and/or jailed for illegally
entering the country.

Explain why under due process and the rule of law that should be ignored?