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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/25/2024 11:46 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
content-free batch of lies:

> In article <i0RSO.201817$WtV9.91058@fx10.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/25/2024 9:56 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <tQPSO.730967$_o_3.334639@fx17.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/25/2024 6:02 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>>>> of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <AZASO.54990$5Cq3.19715@fx06.iad>,
>>>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 12:15 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>>>>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad>, bks@panix.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we could
>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and over,
>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural error was
>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't make
>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file and
>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge who can
>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already being
>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live in
>>>>>>>> North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate North Korea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are getting like N. Korea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We aren't, but if Trump wins, we will.
>>>>>
>>>>> How so?
>>>>
>>>> Trump has already repeatedly told us that's what he intends to do.
>>>
>>> So you kicked my fat flabby doughy pimply ass again. As usual.
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Yes.

Yes.

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