Rocksolid Light

News from da outaworlds

mail  files  register  groups  login

Message-ID:  

BOFH excuse #162: bugs in the RAID


alt / alt.atheism / Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
Followup: alt.fan.rush-limbaurgh,alt.socially.liberalism,alt.athieism,alt.fucknozzles,alt.poltics.democrats.d,talk.poltics.guns
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:01 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!s1-1.netnews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx12.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.society.liberalism,alt.atheism,alt.fun,alt.politics.democrats.d,talk.politics.guns
References: <ODsuI.19888$N%.9043@fx05.iad> <_vpyI.102672$od.4180@fx15.iad>
<m99kcg1bvuh8lefk0tjp5scfe7j34e1pdn@4ax.com> <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>
<ufufhjdm4lrdsnhimji4kengs0if4b8p9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com>
<vfb0tj$22men$1@dont-email.me> <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>
<67195f2d$11$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>
<671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vfe0vn$2ntcu$2@dont-email.me>
<XnsB2158BDDBF1D629555@185.151.15.190>
<671a9d16$2$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
<mZASO.54989$5Cq3.38199@fx06.iad>
<671b969b$1$2757$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
<DPPSO.730966$_o_3.62367@fx17.iad>
<671bcd9a$0$3068680$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
<i%QSO.201816$WtV9.80873@fx10.iad>
<671be2f2$0$2759$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
Content-Language: en-US
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaurgh,alt.socially.liberalism,alt.athieism,alt.fucknozzles,alt.poltics.democrats.d,talk.poltics.guns
From: mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut (Michael A Terrell)
In-Reply-To: <671be2f2$0$2759$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 286
Message-ID: <kWRSO.207011$15a6.95634@fx12.iad>
X-Complaints-To: abuse(at)newshosting.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:01:36 UTC
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:01:36 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 13451
X-Original-Bytes: 13399
View all headers

On 10/25/2024 11:27 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
content-free batch of lies:

> In article <i%QSO.201816$WtV9.80873@fx10.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/25/2024 9:55 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <DPPSO.730966$_o_3.62367@fx17.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/25/2024 6:02 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>>>> of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <mZASO.54989$5Cq3.38199@fx06.iad>,
>>>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 12:17 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>>>>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <XnsB2158BDDBF1D629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:vfe0vn$2ntcu$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:67195f2d$11$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> noemail@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vfb0tj$22men$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ufufhjdm4lrdsnhimji4kengs0if4b8p9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .cocksu cking.dwarf.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit-4-Braincell back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <js@phendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer the sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-crimina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l-justi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ce-reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lie site not read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant facts follow. On March 16, 1978, the Link Belt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Credit Union in Marion County, Indiana was robbed. Men took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money and blank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit union checks at gunpoint from Martha Watts, a Link Belt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Credit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Union employee. On March 27, 1978, Richardson was arrested for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgery when he attempted to cash one of the checks stolen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the Link Belt Credit Union at another bank.See footnote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 5, 1978, Richardson was arrested in Kentucky on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unrelated controlled substances and stolen property charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Career criminal. Life without parole is most deserved, "Cunt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flaps."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest that once someone gets life without parole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they clearly are a waste of resources and an on-going threat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail servers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no purpose at that point since they will never be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rehabilitated. I suggest that once the appeals and such have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run their course they be executed. No, not by some official and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive process, but rather some sedatives and a time delay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast acting poison. They have dinner,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to sleep and simply never wake up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At which point we no longer have to pay to house, feed, cloth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and otherwise support this burden on society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so,
>>>>>>>>>>> we could
>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over
>>>>>>>>>>> and over,
>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for
>>>>>>>>>>> why the
>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably
>>>>>>>>>>> tainted, corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you
>>>>>>>>>>> can't make
>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of
>>>>>>>>>>> it. There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
>>>>>>>>>>> space and reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can
>>>>>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
>>>>>>>>>>> simply hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
>>>>>>>>>>> who decides whether any of the facts established at trial would need
>>>>>>>>>>> to be reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
>>>>>>>>>>> judicial error.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
>>>>>>>>>>> carried out
>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless
>>>>>>>>>>> round of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it
>>>>>>>>>>> is, you have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>>>> office and the judge who can
>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that
>>>>>>>>>>> could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the
>>>>>>>>>>> execution
>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
>>>>>>>>>>> already being
>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>>>>>> tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the
>>>>>>>>> price..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I mean how hard would it be to have a judge sit there and ask?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J: Have you run their fingerprints?
>>>>>>>>> P: Yes, your honor.
>>>>>>>>> J: Are they in the system as a legal immigrant, resident alien, or on
>>>>>>>>> a current visa?
>>>>>>>>> P: No, your honor.
>>>>>>>>> J: Are they a refugee from Mexico?
>>>>>>>>> P: No, your honor.
>>>>>>>>> J: Does the defendant have anything to say that would overturn these
>>>>>>>>> facts, or show they are actually entitled to asylum?
>>>>>>>>> D: Yada, Yada, Yada.
>>>>>>>>> J: Can you prove those allegation at this time?
>>>>>>>>> D: No, your honor
>>>>>>>>> J: Does the defendant have anything to add?
>>>>>>>>> D: No, your honor
>>>>>>>>> J: it is the ruling of this court that they be immediately deported.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A civics lesson:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> State judges do not have
>>>>>>>> the power to deport anyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Give them the right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not going to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> Because it would require a change to the Constitution that is not going to happen.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So?
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why should it take any longer than that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because immigration hearings are
>>>>>>>> conducted in federal courts by federal
>>>>>>>> immigration judges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look what you made me do.
>>>>
>>>> Yes!
>>>
>>> You made me do that too.
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keeping in mind that if the matter is drawn out, that the opinion of
>>>>>>>>> incarceration could be added, and would be added for repeat offenses,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's assuming they can even cross the border.. if caught doing so,
>>>>>>>>> or having just done so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember the conservatie rant
>>>>>>>> that illegal immigrant "Little Elian"
>>>>>>>> be allowed to stay in the US?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happened?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <crickets>
>>>> <*crickets*>
>> <*CRICKETS*>
>
> You kick my fat flabby doughy pimply ass.

Is that a statement of fact, or a request?

I win and you lose — again, and every time.

--
Another content-free post from Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

SubjectRepliesAuthor
o Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners

By: Rudy Canoza on Tue, 22 Oct 2024

156Rudy Canoza

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor