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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/25/2024 9:55 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <DPPSO.730966$_o_3.62367@fx17.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/25/2024 6:02 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <mZASO.54989$5Cq3.38199@fx06.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/24/2024 12:17 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <XnsB2158BDDBF1D629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:vfe0vn$2ntcu$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:67195f2d$11$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>>>>>>> noemail@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:vfb0tj$22men$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ufufhjdm4lrdsnhimji4kengs0if4b8p9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging
>>>>>>>>>>>> .cocksu cking.dwarf.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit-4-Braincell back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <js@phendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer the sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-crimina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l-justi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ce-reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lie site not read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant facts follow. On March 16, 1978, the Link Belt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Credit Union in Marion County, Indiana was robbed. Men took
>>>>>>>>>>>>> money and blank
>>>>>>>>>>>>> credit union checks at gunpoint from Martha Watts, a Link Belt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Credit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Union employee. On March 27, 1978, Richardson was arrested for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgery when he attempted to cash one of the checks stolen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the Link Belt Credit Union at another bank.See footnote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 5, 1978, Richardson was arrested in Kentucky on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unrelated controlled substances and stolen property charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Career criminal. Life without parole is most deserved, "Cunt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flaps."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest that once someone gets life without parole,
>>>>>>>>>>>> they clearly are a waste of resources and an on-going threat.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail servers
>>>>>>>>>>>> no purpose at that point since they will never be
>>>>>>>>>>>> rehabilitated. I suggest that once the appeals and such have
>>>>>>>>>>>> run their course they be executed. No, not by some official and
>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive process, but rather some sedatives and a time delay
>>>>>>>>>>>> fast acting poison. They have dinner,
>>>>>>>>>>>> go to sleep and simply never wake up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At which point we no longer have to pay to house, feed, cloth
>>>>>>>>>>>> and otherwise support this burden on society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so,
>>>>>>>>> we could
>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over
>>>>>>>>> and over,
>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for
>>>>>>>>> why the
>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably
>>>>>>>>> tainted, corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you
>>>>>>>>> can't make
>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of
>>>>>>>>> it. There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
>>>>>>>>> space and reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can
>>>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
>>>>>>>>> simply hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
>>>>>>>>> who decides whether any of the facts established at trial would need
>>>>>>>>> to be reexamined in
>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
>>>>>>>>> judicial error.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
>>>>>>>>> carried out
>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless
>>>>>>>>> round of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it
>>>>>>>>> is, you have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>> office and the judge who can
>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that
>>>>>>>>> could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the
>>>>>>>>> execution
>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
>>>>>>>>> already being
>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>>>> tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the
>>>>>>> price..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I mean how hard would it be to have a judge sit there and ask?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J: Have you run their fingerprints?
>>>>>>> P: Yes, your honor.
>>>>>>> J: Are they in the system as a legal immigrant, resident alien, or on
>>>>>>> a current visa?
>>>>>>> P: No, your honor.
>>>>>>> J: Are they a refugee from Mexico?
>>>>>>> P: No, your honor.
>>>>>>> J: Does the defendant have anything to say that would overturn these
>>>>>>> facts, or show they are actually entitled to asylum?
>>>>>>> D: Yada, Yada, Yada.
>>>>>>> J: Can you prove those allegation at this time?
>>>>>>> D: No, your honor
>>>>>>> J: Does the defendant have anything to add?
>>>>>>> D: No, your honor
>>>>>>> J: it is the ruling of this court that they be immediately deported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A civics lesson:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> State judges do not have
>>>>>> the power to deport anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give them the right.
>>>>
>>>> Not going to happen.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Because it would require a change to the Constitution that is not going to happen.
>
> So?

So?

>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should it take any longer than that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because immigration hearings are
>>>>>> conducted in federal courts by federal
>>>>>> immigration judges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So?
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>
>>> Look what you made me do.
>>
>> Yes!
>
> You made me do that too.

Yes!

>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keeping in mind that if the matter is drawn out, that the opinion of
>>>>>>> incarceration could be added, and would be added for repeat offenses,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's assuming they can even cross the border.. if caught doing so,
>>>>>>> or having just done so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember the conservatie rant
>>>>>> that illegal immigrant "Little Elian"
>>>>>> be allowed to stay in the US?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happened?
>>>>
>>>> <crickets>
>> <*crickets*>
<*CRICKETS*>

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convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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