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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/25/2024 6:02 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <mZASO.54989$5Cq3.38199@fx06.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/24/2024 12:17 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>> content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <XnsB2158BDDBF1D629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>> news:vfe0vn$2ntcu$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:67195f2d$11$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>>>>> noemail@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:vfb0tj$22men$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude"
>>>>>>>>>> <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ufufhjdm4lrdsnhimji4kengs0if4b8p9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging
>>>>>>>>>> .cocksu cking.dwarf.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit-4-Braincell back
>>>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>>>>>>>>>>> as "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a
>>>>>>>>>>>> fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <js@phendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer the sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-crimina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l-justi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ce-reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lie site not read
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant facts follow. On March 16, 1978, the Link Belt
>>>>>>>>>>> Credit Union in Marion County, Indiana was robbed. Men took
>>>>>>>>>>> money and blank
>>>>>>>>>>> credit union checks at gunpoint from Martha Watts, a Link Belt
>>>>>>>>>>> Credit
>>>>>>>>>>> Union employee. On March 27, 1978, Richardson was arrested for
>>>>>>>>>>> forgery when he attempted to cash one of the checks stolen
>>>>>>>>>>> from the Link Belt Credit Union at another bank.See footnote
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 5, 1978, Richardson was arrested in Kentucky on
>>>>>>>>>>> unrelated controlled substances and stolen property charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Career criminal. Life without parole is most deserved, "Cunt
>>>>>>>>>>> Flaps."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest that once someone gets life without parole,
>>>>>>>>>> they clearly are a waste of resources and an on-going threat.
>>>>>>>>>> Jail servers
>>>>>>>>>> no purpose at that point since they will never be
>>>>>>>>>> rehabilitated. I suggest that once the appeals and such have
>>>>>>>>>> run their course they be executed. No, not by some official and
>>>>>>>>>> expensive process, but rather some sedatives and a time delay
>>>>>>>>>> fast acting poison. They have dinner,
>>>>>>>>>> go to sleep and simply never wake up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At which point we no longer have to pay to house, feed, cloth
>>>>>>>>>> and otherwise support this burden on society.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so,
>>>>>>> we could
>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over
>>>>>>> and over,
>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for
>>>>>>> why the
>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably
>>>>>>> tainted, corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you
>>>>>>> can't make
>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of
>>>>>>> it. There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
>>>>>>> space and reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can
>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
>>>>>>> simply hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
>>>>>>> who decides whether any of the facts established at trial would need
>>>>>>> to be reexamined in
>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
>>>>>>> judicial error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
>>>>>>> carried out
>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless
>>>>>>> round of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it
>>>>>>> is, you have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's
>>>>>>> office and the judge who can
>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that
>>>>>>> could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the
>>>>>>> execution
>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
>>>>>>> already being
>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>>>>>>> expensive.. I
>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>> tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the
>>>>> price..
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean how hard would it be to have a judge sit there and ask?
>>>>>
>>>>> J: Have you run their fingerprints?
>>>>> P: Yes, your honor.
>>>>> J: Are they in the system as a legal immigrant, resident alien, or on
>>>>> a current visa?
>>>>> P: No, your honor.
>>>>> J: Are they a refugee from Mexico?
>>>>> P: No, your honor.
>>>>> J: Does the defendant have anything to say that would overturn these
>>>>> facts, or show they are actually entitled to asylum?
>>>>> D: Yada, Yada, Yada.
>>>>> J: Can you prove those allegation at this time?
>>>>> D: No, your honor
>>>>> J: Does the defendant have anything to add?
>>>>> D: No, your honor
>>>>> J: it is the ruling of this court that they be immediately deported.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A civics lesson:
>>>>
>>>> State judges do not have
>>>> the power to deport anyone.
>>>
>>> Give them the right.
>>
>> Not going to happen.
>
> Why?

Because it would require a change to the Constitution that is not going to happen.

>>>>
>>>>> Why should it take any longer than that?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because immigration hearings are
>>>> conducted in federal courts by federal
>>>> immigration judges.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So?
>
> Look you made me do.

Yes!

>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Keeping in mind that if the matter is drawn out, that the opinion of
>>>>> incarceration could be added, and would be added for repeat offenses,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's assuming they can even cross the border.. if caught doing so,
>>>>> or having just done so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember the conservatie rant
>>>> that illegal immigrant "Little Elian"
>>>> be allowed to stay in the US?
>>>>
>>>> What happened?
>>
>> <crickets>
<*crickets*>
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Another content-free post from Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing

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