"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>
>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:67195f2d$11$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>> >> news:vfb0tj$22men$1@dont-email.me:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote in message
>> >> > news:ufufhjdm4lrdsnhimji4kengs0if4b8p9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu
>> >> > cking.dwarf.com...
>> >> >> [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> typed:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>> >> >>>Shit-4-Braincell back
>> >> >>>when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>> >> >>>"Lamey," but
>> >> >>>he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>> >> >>>loser.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>> >> >>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>> >> >>>>>> prisons there are,
>> >> >>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer
>> >> >>>>>> the sentences.
>> >> >>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>> >> >>>>>> more
>> >> >>>>>> prisons and
>> >> >>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> More support:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>> >> >>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justi
>> >> >>>>> ce-reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lie site not read
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick
>> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >>>>> fill up the
>> >> >>>>> prisons.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The relevant facts follow. On March 16, 1978, the Link Belt Credit
>> >> >> Union in Marion County, Indiana was robbed. Men took money and
>> >> >> blank
>> >> >> credit union checks at gunpoint from Martha Watts, a Link Belt
>> >> >> Credit
>> >> >> Union employee. On March 27, 1978, Richardson was arrested for
>> >> >> forgery when he attempted to cash one of the checks stolen from the
>> >> >> Link Belt Credit Union at another bank.See footnote
>> >> >> On May 5, 1978, Richardson was arrested in Kentucky on unrelated
>> >> >> controlled substances and stolen property charges.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Career criminal. Life without parole is most deserved, "Cunt
>> >> >> Flaps."
>> >> >
>> >> > I would suggest that once someone gets life without parole, they
>> >> > clearly are a waste of resources and an on-going threat. Jail
>> >> > servers
>> >> > no purpose at that point since they will never be rehabilitated. I
>> >> > suggest that once the appeals and such have run their course they be
>> >> > executed. No, not by some official and expensive process, but rather
>> >> > some sedatives and a time delay fast acting poison. They have
>> >> > dinner,
>> >> > go to sleep and simply never wake up.
>> >> >
>> >> > At which point we no longer have to pay to house, feed, cloth and
>> >> > otherwise support this burden on society.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
>> >> than incarceration costs.
>>
>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>> could
>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>> over,
>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why
>> the
>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural error
>> was
>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>
>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>> execution proceeds on track.
>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>> make
>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>
>> >> But since you want
>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>> >> them, no?
>>
>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>> and
>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be reexamined
>> in
>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>> error.
>>
>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried
>> out
>> immediately.
>>
>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge who
>> can
>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>
>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the
>> execution
>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>
>>
>> > Bullshit.
>>
>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>> being
>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>
>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive..
>> I
>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>
>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>
>>
>
> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.

Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price..

I mean how hard would it be to have a judge sit there and ask?

J: Have you run their fingerprints?
P: Yes, your honor.
J: Are they in the system as a legal immigrant, resident alien, or on a
current visa?
P: No, your honor.
J: Are they a refugee from Mexico?
P: No, your honor.
J: Does the defendant have anything to say that would overturn these facts,
or show they are actually entitled to asylum?
D: Yada, Yada, Yada.
J: Can you prove those allegation at this time?
D: No, your honor
J: Does the defendant have anything to add?
D: No, your honor
J: it is the ruling of this court that they be immediately deported.

Why should it take any longer than that?

Keeping in mind that if the matter is drawn out, that the opinion of
incarceration could be added, and would be added for repeat offenses,

That's assuming they can even cross the border.. if caught doing so, or
having just done so.
If shown to be a mule they do hard time. If a human trafficker they are
subject to execution. A repeat offender spends 2 years in jail and
performing work, The earnings of such work to pay for their expenses with
any surplus to be given to border patrol to increase their operational
funding.

I bet we could cut illegal immigration by 50% in the first year, and the
more there is, the more funding we get from their labor to pay for increased
enforcement.