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Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
From: Tim Marshall
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Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
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On 07 Oct 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
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> On 10/7/2024 7:02 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
> another content-free batch of lies:
>
>> In article <iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad>,
>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>
>>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>> Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking
>>> do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>
>>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republica
>>>>>>>>>> ns,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words have come back to haunt him as video from earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year touting the Federal Emergency Management
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before Hurricane Helene
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds as hurricane season continued to slam the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southeastern United States. The organization has enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments Mayorkas made in the summer assuring that FEMA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be able to handle upcoming weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporters in a video from July. "This is what we do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is what they do, and the key here ? is to also make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme heat, which certainly some parts of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States are experiencing," he added. Mayorkas stressed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity of weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund remained in a precarious position and needed fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding from Congress ahead of an expected heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "consequences" of increasingly severe weather events as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate change continues to exacerbate disasters such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ly-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the taxpayers first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left-wing source, Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money Because Of Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-beca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds were rerouted to border-related efforts are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?false,? noting the Disaster Relief Fund is a dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund for managing disasters and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster fund, and the fund faces issues after lawmakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> declined to allocate additional funding for FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing it to draw from $20 billion in funds more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an explosion of wildfires across the West and urgent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleas from Democrats and the White House this month were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not enough to persuade Congress to secure new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any money meant for disaster relief on immigrants of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran out of money. Either establish that the budget has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been cut or tell us where the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant
>>>>>>>>>>>> freebies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal
>>>>>>>>>> migrants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running
>>>>>>>>> out of money for disaster relief, but not because money was
>>>>>>>>> used for unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in
>>>>>>>> Direct Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340
>>>>>>>> Million for a New Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster
>>>>>>> relief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one
>>>>> year and $0 for migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following
>>>>> year there again is $100 billion for disaster relief and an
>>>>> additional $10 billion for migrant/refugee resettlement,
>>>>> fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>>>>
>>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>>> That's a lie and you know it.
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Yep. It's a lie, and everyone knows it.

Yes everyone knows Democrats are lying about permitting the USA being
invaded and the facts that they are bending over and treating them as
conquerers. Democrats have given criminals more than citizens. No wonder
they don't want them to have guns.

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